Republican candidates for 2012

• QuakerOats

  BGFalcons82;795039 wrote:Told ya - http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/07/its-not-the-economy-its-you-says-obama/
  
  
  
  It is the ONLY arrow in his quiver and it doesn't shoot as straight as it did nearly 3 years ago.

  
  That's the problem with community organizers and activist/agitators;, they have never led, never managed, never invested ......... just ranted and raved.
  
  Change we can believe in ...
• Ty Webb

  

  fish82;794580 wrote:LOL...unless the numbers say what you want them to say, then one poll is the gospel. Got it.
  
  All one has to do is look at the Electoral Map, and it becomes obvious that Bam is gonna have his hands full.

  
  Before you start jerking off about the electoral map....you might want to take a look at the state-by-state poll numbers
• believer

  

  Ty Webb;795272 wrote:Before you start jerking off about the electoral map....you might want to take a look at the state-by-state poll numbers

  I don't know who's more obsessed with erections....Weiner or Gibby and his poll numbers?
• fish82

  

  Ty Webb;795272 wrote:Before you start jerking off about the electoral map....you might want to take a look at the state-by-state poll numbers

  
  I have, Skippy. Why would I bring it up otherwise? :rolleyes:
• majorspark

  

  Ty Webb;795272 wrote:Before you start jerking off about the electoral map....you might want to take a look at the state-by-state poll numbers

  The census changed apportionment of electoral votes. The changes favor the republican candidate.
  
  Since the 2008 election, 18 states have experienced a change in their number of electoral votes because of the decennial census. Some (mostly red ones) have gained electoral votes and some (mostly blue) have lost electoral votes. John McCain would have closed the gap by 14 electoral votes in 2008 if the contest had been run under the 2012 Electoral College distribution.
  
  Mr. Obama narrowly won three traditionally Republican states in 2008: Indiana, Virginia and North Carolina. Democrats last carried the first two in 1964 and the third in 1976.
  
  The president will be hard-pressed to win these states and their 39 electoral votes next year, especially Indiana and North Carolina.
  
  Since you beat off to early polling data, I thought you might like this.
  
  According to recent polls (conducted by Public Policy Polling and the polling arms of Suffolk and Quinnipiac universities, the University of New Hampshire, and Dartmouth College), Mr. Obama trails former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in New Hampshire (four electoral votes), and he leads a generic, unnamed Republican by only one point in Pennsylvania (20 votes), a state he carried last time by over 10%. He leads a Republican (both unnamed and named) in the Midwest states of Michigan (16 electoral votes), Wisconsin (10), Iowa (six), and Minnesota (10)—but with less than 50%.
  
  Then there are Western battlegrounds: Colorado (nine electoral votes), New Mexico (five) and Nevada (six). Mr. Obama leads in the first two with more than 50%—albeit in polls by Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm that tends to be more generous to its party's candidates. But in Nevada, Mr. Obama trails Mr. Romney in a poll conducted by the same firm
  
  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703849204576303090659547856.html
• Ty Webb

  

  fish82;795284 wrote:I have, Skippy. Why would I bring it up otherwise? :rolleyes:

  
  Then I dont know what polls you're looking at....
• Ty Webb

  

  http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/08/oukwd-uk-usa-campaign-poll-idAFTRE7574BK20110608?sp=true
  
  Hmmm....closest person in Romney...and he is down 13
  
  Is Rueters a big liberal polling giant?
• cbus4life

  I know it won't happen in 2012, but i hope Paul Ryan has a run in him here at some point.
  
  Always nice to support fellow Miami University graduates. Though the fraternity he was in were giant douches while i was there.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Ty Webb;795335 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/08/oukwd-uk-usa-campaign-poll-idAFTRE7574BK20110608?sp=true
  
  Hmmm....closest person in Romney...and he is down 13
  
  Is Rueters a big liberal polling giant?

  
  Reuters is pretty liberal -- any news service that arbitrarily refuses to call terrorists...terrorists...is pretty liberal. That said, I don't see a breakdown linked to that poll, so it has no credibility with me unless I see numbers of Democrats polled vs. Republicans vs. Independents.
  
  However, I found this paragraph interesting and think it will play into the election, because it's been very consistent in just about every poll done over the last year or so:
  
  The poll found 60 percent of respondents said the country is on the wrong track, up from 56 percent in May but still below April's high of 69 percent. In the latest survey, 35 percent said the country is going in the right direction.
• BoatShoes

  fish82;794568 wrote:He'll likely win the nomination because unfortunately, that's what the Pubs do. They nominate the "next guy in line" who has "paid his dues," rarely with good results. I wouldn't say he's a "liberal faking it" necessarily, but he is no question an "establishment" Pub candidate.

  
  Eh I suppose you're right. Perhaps I'm overestimating the dislike I see for him, Pawlenty and Huntsman by the more conservative republicans.
• stlouiedipalma

  I just can't wait until the primary season begins, so we can see these Republican candidates take off the gloves and start bashing each other. Right now they are all in "bash Obama" mode, which makes for great sound bites but does nothing to distinguish themselves from each other.
  
  Now that Gingrich's staff has deserted the sinking ship, there is some speculation about Gov. Perry from Texas entering the race. That sounds pretty good to me. Didn't we have a President who was a Governor from Texas? Oh yeah, he ushered in a great recession, turned a surplus into a huge deficit and sent over 4,000 of our troops to their deaths for a lie. Yeah, give me one just like that one.
• stlouiedipalma

  fish82;793243 wrote:The problem is, Junior, that the numbers already deem Rush/Hannity/Beck are relevant. Pick any one of them and they reach more people in a day than Little Billy does in a month. Excellent try, though.
  
  I'm surprised you're not on here trumpeting the latest ABC/WaPo poll about "Obama the Unbeatable." Oh wait....check that...I'm not surprised at all.

  
  You do realize, don't you, that Rush/Hannity/Beck reach an audience made up of gun-totin', inbred rednecks and that Maher's audience is made up of gun hatin', inbred, tofu-eatin' wine drinkers? There's no contest!
• BGFalcons82

  

  stlouiedipalma;797513 wrote:I just can't wait until the primary season begins, so we can see these Republican candidates take off the gloves and start bashing each other. Right now they are all in "bash Obama" mode, which makes for great sound bites but does nothing to distinguish themselves from each other.
  
  Now that Gingrich's staff has deserted the sinking ship, there is some speculation about Gov. Perry from Texas entering the race. That sounds pretty good to me. Didn't we have a President who was a Governor from Texas? Oh yeah, he ushered in a great recession, turned a surplus into a huge deficit and sent over 4,000 of our troops to their deaths for a lie. Yeah, give me one just like that one.

  
  Sweeping generalizations based on one's home state, huh? That's your bullet? Really? If that's all you've got, it's nothing more than a spitwad.
  
  Try reading up on what Gov. Perry has done in the Lone Star State. It's actually enlightening to read what a leader with experience can do for his constituents and not to them.
  
  By the way, your Nobel Peace Prize winner is sponsoring state terrorism in Yemen now. Some are calling it the 4th war. They can't be wars, though, as the most inept POTUS of my lifetime doesn't have any testicles to go to Congress and get a declaration of war approved. You hate Bush for his 4000 dead...how many has Barry sent to pay the ultimate price? What's that? The press isn't reporting it hourly like they did from 2002 through 1-19-2009. Wonder why that is....hmmmmm?????
• stlouiedipalma

  That's because the press has been bought off. At least that's the opinion of all conservatives on this site.
  
  And, yes, I hate Bush for what he did. He not only has their blood on his hands, he also wrecked our economy with his use of the credit card to finance his revenge war in Iraq.
• BGFalcons82

  

  stlouiedipalma;797550 wrote:That's because the press has been bought off. At least that's the opinion of all conservatives on this site.
  
  And, yes, I hate Bush for what he did. He not only has their blood on his hands, he also wrecked our economy with his use of the credit card to finance his revenge war in Iraq.

  
  Why did the press report battlefield deaths as if each and every one of them was at the hands of Satan's own, George W. Bush and yet now that their manchild is in charge, it's not the President's fault any more? There is no more conclusive evidence of the press' love affair with Barry than this lack of reporting.
  
  If you hated Bush for using a credit card, then you must hate his successor 300% more since he's charging that much more than Satan's child did. Right?
  
  FWIW, I think a Perry-Pawlenty ticket would easily win next November.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  BGFalcons82;797579 wrote:Why did the press report battlefield deaths as if each and every one of them was at the hands of Satan's own, George W. Bush and yet now that their manchild is in charge, it's not the President's fault any more? There is no more conclusive evidence of the press' love affair with Barry than this lack of reporting.
  
  If you hated Bush for using a credit card, then you must hate his successor 300% more since he's charging that much more than Satan's child did. Right?
  
  FWIW, I think a Perry-Pawlenty ticket would easily win next November.

  
  Louie, you just got royally spanked.
• fish82

  

  stlouiedipalma;797528 wrote:You do realize, don't you, that Rush/Hannity/Beck reach an audience made up of gun-totin', inbred rednecks and that Maher's audience is made up of gun hatin', inbred, tofu-eatin' wine drinkers? There's no contest!

  LOL...I eat tofu and drink my share of wine, and I still think Maher is a penis.
• Ty Webb

  

  BGFalcons82;797579 wrote:Why did the press report battlefield deaths as if each and every one of them was at the hands of Satan's own, George W. Bush and yet now that their manchild is in charge, it's not the President's fault any more? There is no more conclusive evidence of the press' love affair with Barry than this lack of reporting.
  
  If you hated Bush for using a credit card, then you must hate his successor 300% more since he's charging that much more than Satan's child did. Right?
  
  FWIW, I think a Perry-Pawlenty ticket would easily win next November.

  Yes...they would win so easily because Pawlenty is running 15 points behind the President
• Ty Webb

  

  Former Gingrich aide: "His Campaign is dead"
  
  http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/06/former-aide-rich-galen-gingrich-can-pretend-but-campaign-over.html
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Most of us knew a long time ago that Gingrich was not going anywhere as a candidate. His ego wouldn't let him give it up when he should have. I'm glad he's out fairly early.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  I'm just now starting to read in the R field and really Jon Huntsman is the only one I could consider right now.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Ty Webb;798042 wrote:Former Gingrich aide: "His Campaign is dead"
  
  http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/06/former-aide-rich-galen-gingrich-can-pretend-but-campaign-over.html

  
  Dead even before 2012, wow. And you wonder why people stayed/ are staying out of it?
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Ty Webb;798040 wrote:Yes...they would win so easily because Pawlenty is running 15 points behind the President

  
  In June of 2011.......
  Given time, a shrinking field, and more exposure to his ideas, he could easily make up that gap.
• BGFalcons82

  

  Ty Webb;798040 wrote:Yes...they would win so easily because Pawlenty is running 15 points behind the President

  
  Note to Ty: the presidential candidate is listed FIRST. There is no poll on the planet showing how Barry stacks up vs. VP candidates. Perry needs someone who can be seen as presidential material and deliver states from the North. He satisfies both requirements for the governor from Texas.
• Ty Webb

  

  Guys....let's be honest there is only going to be one person who is going to win the Republican nomination....and his name is Mitt Romney
  
  Yes,Pawlenty would be able to "bring home" several state in the North...seeing how he is polling 10-15 points behind the President in his home state of Minnesota
  
  
  IMO....the only Republican I would even be concerned with is Chris Christie....and seeing how he isn't running(he isn't a dummy) I'm not concerned with anyone in the field right now