Republican candidates for 2012

• gut

  2kool4skool;1151813 wrote: Dems thought the same thing in 04, and they got beaten by an atrocious incumbent. Same thing will happen to the Republicans in 12.

  Except we weren't still waiting for a real recovery from the worst economy in 80 years. And Obama is worse than Bush, hard as that is to fathom.
• HitsRus

  

  they got beaten by an atrocious incumbent. Same thing will happen to the Republicans in 12.

  God how awful to think an atrocious incumbent could win in November. I think we should all resolve to not let such a thing happen.
• 2kool4skool

  

  HitsRus;1151897 wrote:God how awful to think an atrocious incumbent could win in November. I think we should all resolve to not let such a thing happen.

  Well it's going to happen, so get the crying out now.
  
  The best possible strategy at this point, is to not attach a potential future winner to Romney's losing ticket. Anyone that signs on as his VP is effectively ending their Presidential ambition.
• HitsRus

  

  Yeah...we wouldn't want to put up anybody that Joe Biden might have a tough time debating:laugh:
• believer

  

  O-Trap;1151520 wrote:Pretty sure that one little sentiment has been shared by a few Republican candidates. Probably why he said it: It's trendy in Republican circles to accentuate that (not without justification). But the guy's track record doesn't seem so "free enterprise friendly." Well, except when he himself was in the private sector.

  Perhaps, but we know for a FACT what Obama's track record is.
  
  It's more than safe and quite fair to say it is definitely not free enterprise friendly.
  
  I'll go with the guy who made some dough in the private sector over the Kenyan Community Organizer. No brainer.
• fish82

  

  It'll come down to Ohio, PA and Florida. Whoever takes 2/3 is your winner.
• O-Trap

  

  believer;1151922 wrote:I'll go with the guy who made some dough in the private sector over the Kenyan Community Organizer. No brainer.

  Hardly, when considering his track record once he took office. He looked a lot like said Community Organizer when he was in Massachusetts, except for the 'R' by his name.
  
  Romney does what is good for Romney. In the private sector, that's using the freedom of enterprise to make money. In the public sector, that's using political positioning to make money.
  
  It's not whether he has the sense to be good. He just doesn't have anything trustworthy to back up that he will CHOOSE to do what is in the public's best interest over what is in his own.
• dwccrew

  

  believer;1151290 wrote:I know what you mean. Romney has other radical ideas too. For example he was quoted as saying, "The American economy is fueled by freedom. Free people and their free enterprises are what drive our economic vitality."
  
  No way I can support someone who thinks like that.
  
  
  
  WTF are you talking about? Repubs already regret that Mitt's our best option...but there's no way in hell Obama's a better choice.

  Do you believe that Romney is being genuine when he states things like the bolded? It is just rhetoric and hot-air, just like 99.9% of the politicians out there.
  

  believer;1151922 wrote:Perhaps, but we know for a FACT what Obama's track record is.
  
  It's more than safe and quite fair to say it is definitely not free enterprise friendly.
  
  I'll go with the guy who made some dough in the private sector over the Kenyan Community Organizer. No brainer.

  
  I'm curious as to why you chose to label Obama as a KENYAN community organizer. Did he do his community organizing in Kenya? Do you not believe he was born in the U.S.? Do you not like that he is of Kenyan descent?
• believer

  

  dwccrew;1151983 wrote:Kenya? Do you not believe he was born in the U.S.? Do you not like that he is of Kenyan descent?

  Simply putting a title to the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama.
• believer

  

  dwccrew;1151983 wrote:Kenya? Do you not believe he was born in the U.S.? Do you not like that he is of Kenyan descent?

  Simply putting a title to the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama.
  

  O-Trap;1151941 wrote:It's not whether he has the sense to be good. He just doesn't have anything trustworthy to back up that he will CHOOSE to do what is in the public's best interest over what is in his own.

  Sounds a lot like the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama.
• QuakerOats

  2kool4skool;1151904 wrote:Well it's going to happen, so get the crying out now.
  

  You must be high; obama loses in a landslide ..........there has never been a worse presidency in history. The only issue at this point is ....... can we ever recover.
• believer

  

  dwccrew;1151983 wrote:Kenya? Do you not believe he was born in the U.S.? Do you not like that he is of Kenyan descent?

  Simply putting a title to the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama.
  

  O-Trap;1151941 wrote:It's not whether he has the sense to be good. He just doesn't have anything trustworthy to back up that he will CHOOSE to do what is in the public's best interest over what is in his own.

  Sounds a lot like the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama.
  
  Besides Romney's BS rhetoric pales in comparison to that Hope & Change thing the Kool Aid drinkers couldn't get enough of 4 years ago.
• believer

  

  dwccrew;1151983 wrote:Kenya? Do you not believe he was born in the U.S.? Do you not like that he is of Kenyan descent?

  Simply putting a title to the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama. I do believe Barry's an Amerikan. His million dollar birth certificate is likely the most expensive on record.
  

  O-Trap;1151941 wrote:It's not whether he has the sense to be good. He just doesn't have anything trustworthy to back up that he will CHOOSE to do what is in the public's best interest over what is in his own.

  Sounds a lot like the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama.
  
  Besides Romney's BS rhetoric pales in comparison to that Hope & Change thing the Kool Aid drinkers couldn't get enough of 4 years ago.
  

  QuakerOats;1152065 wrote:You must be high; obama loses in a landslide ..........there has never been a worse presidency in history. The only issue at this point is ....... can we ever recover.

  Sure we can. There's the Hope & Change bullshit and if you don't like that, try "Yes We Can"
• believer

  

  dwccrew;1151983 wrote:Kenya? Do you not believe he was born in the U.S.? Do you not like that he is of Kenyan descent?

  Simply putting a title to the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama. I do believe Barry's an Amerikan. His million dollar birth certificate iproves he is.
  

  O-Trap;1151941 wrote:It's not whether he has the sense to be good. He just doesn't have anything trustworthy to back up that he will CHOOSE to do what is in the public's best interest over what is in his own.

  Sounds a lot like the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama.
  
  Besides Romney's BS rhetoric pales in comparison to that Hope & Change thing the Kool Aid drinkers couldn't get enough of 4 years ago.
  

  QuakerOats;1152065 wrote:You must be high; obama loses in a landslide ..........there has never been a worse presidency in history. The only issue at this point is ....... can we ever recover.

  Sure we can. There's the Hope & Change bullshit and if you don't like that, try "Yes We Can".
• believer

  

  dwccrew;1151983 wrote:Kenya? Do you not believe he was born in the U.S.? Do you not like that he is of Kenyan descent?

  Simply putting a title to the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama. I do believe Barry's an Amerikan. His million dollar birth certificate proves he is.
  

  O-Trap;1151941 wrote:It's not whether he has the sense to be good. He just doesn't have anything trustworthy to back up that he will CHOOSE to do what is in the public's best interest over what is in his own.

  Sounds a lot like the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama.
  
  Besides Romney's BS rhetoric pales in comparison to that Hope & Change thing the Kool Aid drinkers couldn't get enough of 4 years ago.
  

  QuakerOats;1152065 wrote:You must be high; obama loses in a landslide ..........there has never been a worse presidency in history. The only issue at this point is ....... can we ever recover.

  Sure we can. There's the Hope & Change bullshit and if you don't like that, try "Yes We Can".
• O-Trap

  

  believer;1152087 wrote:Sounds a lot like the fraud and phony known as Barrack Hussein Obama.
  
  Besides Romney's BS rhetoric pales in comparison to that Hope & Change thing the Kool Aid drinkers couldn't get enough of 4 years ago.

  Meh, believe it or not, I think I trust Obama's motives more, but his aptitude far less. The catch-22 of calling someone inept, is that it is less likely for them to be conniving.
  
  To a less extreme degree, I think Obama and Romney are like Pinky and the Brain. One might be trustworthy, but he's inept. The other might be immensely skilled, but he's not to be trusted. Either one is bad news for those he controls ... to a degree I don't think is all that dissimilar.
• 2kool4skool

  

  QuakerOats;1152065 wrote:You must be high; obama loses in a landslide

  :laugh:
• believer

  

  O-Trap;1152113 wrote:Meh, believe it or not, I think I trust Obama's motives more, but his aptitude far less. The catch-22 of calling someone inept, is that it is less likely for them to be conniving.

  Oh I trust BHO's motives because his policies clearly show which direction he wants us to go and what type of vision he has for America. Solidly left and definitely socialist. If that's the vision of America that appeals to you, by all means double down on him.
  
  Romney's policies and his motives may be in question, but you can't argue that he has more experience in the benefits of semi-free enterprise.
  
  I've said this countless times, Romney isn't even close to who I had hoped would rise to the top of the Republican field. Yet as much of a mystery he may be, I know for a fact the disaster we've endured and experienced that past 4 years.
  
  I'm stunned that there are people out there who apparently believe Obama's doing a great job. Trillion dollar deficits, Obamacare, intrusive energy policies, increased welfare rolls, no better than 8% (+) gubmint reported unemployment rates, etc. all tell me it's time to give someone else a try....even if the initial perceptions are milky. Four years ago everyone though Obama could walk on water. Why not give the Milk Man a chance to prove us wrong too?
  
  If Romney wins and 4 years from now we are equal to or worse off than we are now, I'll gladly admit I was wrong.
• believer

  

  O-Trap;1152113 wrote:Meh, believe it or not, I think I trust Obama's motives more, but his aptitude far less. The catch-22 of calling someone inept, is that it is less likely for them to be conniving.

  Oh I trust BHO's motives because his policies clearly show which direction he wants us to go and what type of vision he has for America. Solidly left and definitely socialist. If that's the vision of America that appeals to you, by all means double down on him.
  
  Romney's policies and his motives may be in question, but you can't argue that he has more experience in the benefits of semi-free enterprise.
  
  I've said this countless times, Romney isn't even close to who I had hoped would rise to the top of the Republican field. Yet as much of a mystery he may be, I know for a fact the disaster we've endured and experienced that past 4 years.
  
  I'm stunned that there are people out there who apparently believe Obama's doing a great job. Trillion dollar deficits, Obamacare, intrusive energy policies, increased welfare rolls, no better than 8% (+) gubmint reported unemployment rates, etc. all tell me it's time to give someone else a try....even if the initial perceptions are milky. Four years ago everyone thought the Anointed One was the Second Coming. Why not give the Milk Man a chance to prove us wrong too?
  
  If Romney wins and 4 years from now we are equal to or worse off than we are now, I'll gladly admit I was wrong.
• believer

  

  O-Trap;1152113 wrote:Meh, believe it or not, I think I trust Obama's motives more, but his aptitude far less. The catch-22 of calling someone inept, is that it is less likely for them to be conniving.

  Oh I trust BHO's motives because his policies clearly show which direction he wants us to go and what type of vision he has for America. Solidly left and definitely socialist. If that's the vision of America that appeals to you, by all means double down on him.
  
  Romney's policies and his motives may be in question, but you can't argue that he has no experience in the benefits of semi-free enterprise.
  
  I've said this countless times, Romney isn't even close to who I had hoped would rise to the top of the Republican field. Yet as much of a mystery he may be, I know for a fact the disaster we've endured and experienced that past 4 years.
  
  I'm stunned that there are people out there who apparently believe Obama's doing a great job. Trillion dollar deficits, Obamacare, intrusive energy policies, increased welfare rolls, no better than 8% (+) gubmint reported unemployment rates, etc. all tell me it's time to give someone else a try....even if the initial perceptions are milky. Four years ago everyone thought the Anointed One was the Second Coming. Why not give the Milk Man a chance to prove us wrong too?
  
  If Romney wins and 4 years from now we are equal to or worse off than we are now, I'll gladly admit I was wrong.
• gut

  The obvious Obama campaign slogan: "I'm hoping you don't make a change in 2012"
  
  Or "After 4 years of campaigning, I'm finally ready to get to work"
  
  Maybe "I got Bin Laden...Ted Nugent, watch out!"
  
  Better yet "I will narrow the wealth gap by making the rich poorer"
• fish82

  

  QuakerOats;1152065 wrote:You must be high; obama loses in a landslide ..........there has never been a worse presidency in history. The only issue at this point is ....... can we ever recover.

  I doubt it will be a landslide either way. I'll be surprised if either side breaks 280.
• believer

  

  O-Trap;1152113 wrote:Meh, believe it or not, I think I trust Obama's motives more, but his aptitude far less. The catch-22 of calling someone inept, is that it is less likely for them to be conniving.

  Oh I trust BHO's motives because his policies clearly show which direction he wants us to go and what type of vision he has for America. Solidly left and definitely socialist. If that's the vision of America that appeals to you, by all means double down on him.
  
  Romney's policies and his motives may be in question, but you can't argue that he has no experience in the benefits of semi-free enterprise.
  
  I've said this countless times, Romney isn't even close to who I had hoped would rise to the top of the Republican field. Yet as much of a mystery he may be, I know for a fact the disaster we've endured and experienced that past 4 years.
  
  I'm stunned that there are people out there who apparently believe Obama's doing a great job. Trillion dollar deficits, Obamacare, intrusive energy policies, increased welfare rolls, no better than 8% (+) gubmint reported unemployment rates, etc. all tell me it's time to give someone else a try....even if the initial perceptions are milky.
  
  Four years ago everyone thought the Anointed One was the Second Coming. Why not give the Milk Man a chance to prove us wrong too?
• O-Trap

  

  Like I said, it's Obama's competency I don't trust, and that's based on these last four years. He's a buffoon.
  
  He's Pinky.
  
  You can't argue that Romney has no experience in the semi-free enterprise, no. You can say the same of Oprah, but I daresay, I wouldn't be voting her into office anytime soon.
  
  I can't fathom what goes through people's heads when they think the big 'O' is doing a great job either. Blows my mind that anyone could want to reelect this guy.
• BoatShoes

  gut;1151895 wrote:Except we weren't still waiting for a real recovery from the worst economy in 80 years. And Obama is worse than Bush, hard as that is to fathom.

  As if you would support any policy that would make a recovery happen Gut! Chasing after balanced budgets in a depressed economy is a fools errand. Cameron government is now in a full blown recession and that is exactly what you have argued we should be doing.