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Republican candidates for 2012

  • tk421
    as long as special interests and jails continue to be big business, I don't care who is in office it isn't going to change.
  • believer
    Footwedge;1070665 wrote:Newt just went off a yellin at the media.
    Sounds like my kinda guy. ;)
  • Con_Alma
    I Wear Pants;1070894 wrote:

    Which one of the Republicans would do anything about that? It's not Newt, Mittens, or Frothy.
    Were all those people unfairly jailed? Did they not break laws which had jail time sentences associated with them?

    Shouldn't we be outraged at the amount of crime as opposed to the amount of jail time that is handed out in this country?
  • fish82
    Footwedge;1070668 wrote:So who wins? The closet liberal acting like a conservative or the closet liberal acting like a conservative?
    As of today, it's a toss-up.
  • believer
    fish82;1070936 wrote:As of today, it's a toss-up.
    And only 10 more months to go! ;)
  • queencitybuckeye
    Con_Alma;1070933 wrote:Were all those people unfairly jailed? Did they not break laws which had jail time sentences associated with them?

    Shouldn't we be outraged at the amount of crime as opposed to the amount of jail time that is handed out in this country?
    Perhaps we should be concerned that we spend an enormous amount for highly questionable results. It's reasonably clear that "more jail less crime" is not a realistic mantra.
  • fish82
    believer;1070939 wrote:And only 10 more months to go! ;)
    I know. Just shoot me now.
  • I Wear Pants
    Con_Alma;1070933 wrote:Were all those people unfairly jailed? Did they not break laws which had jail time sentences associated with them?

    Shouldn't we be outraged at the amount of crime as opposed to the amount of jail time that is handed out in this country?
    We jail more people than fucking Russia dude.

    We have more shitty laws that are enforced, not more shitty people committing crimes. Wake up.
  • Con_Alma
    I Wear Pants;1070952 wrote:We jail more people than ****ing Russia dude.

    We have more ****ty laws that are enforced, not more ****ty people committing crimes. Wake up.
    We are a land of laws. If we don't enforce the laws we have greater issues than weak laws populating the jails and prisons.

    Follow the laws or get them changed but complaining about being punished for the laws in place is worthless.
  • I Wear Pants
    Con_Alma;1070954 wrote:We are a land of laws. If we don't enforce the laws we have greater issues than weak laws populating the jails and prisons.

    Follow the laws or get them changed but complaining about being punished for the laws in place is worthless.
    The problem are the laws and our system.

    The attitude you're taking is that there is no problem.
  • queencitybuckeye
    I Wear Pants;1071536 wrote:The problem are the laws and our system.
    Agree in part with the former, less so with the latter. In what way is the problem "the system"?
  • fish82
    Half the Florida precincts reporting:

    Mitt 49%
    Newt 30%
    Rick 13%
    Ron 7%
  • believer
    fish82;1071634 wrote:Half the Florida precincts reporting:

    Mitt 49%
    Newt 30%
    Rick 13%
    Ron 7%
    Rick and Ron need to bow out.
  • sleeper
    believer;1071645 wrote:Rick and Ron need to bow out.
    Ron spent $0 and 0 time in Florida. The results aren't surprising at all, the two with the most corporate money were at the top.
  • sjmvsfscs08
    Iowa: Rick Santorum
    New Hampshire: Mitt Romney
    South Carolina: Newt Gingrich
    Florida: Mitt Romney



    February primaries/caucuses...

    Nevada: Romney
    Maine: Romney
    Colorado: ??
    Minnesota: ??
    Arizona: ??
    Michigan: Romney

    Honestly I see Romney winning Nevada (Mormons), Maine (close to MA), and Michigan (father) running away.

    Any predictions? I do have the states right, right?
  • sleeper
    sjmvsfscs08;1071677 wrote:Iowa: Rick Santorum
    New Hampshire: Mitt Romney
    South Carolina: Newt Gingrich
    Florida: Mitt Romney



    February primaries/caucuses...

    Nevada: Romney
    Maine: Romney
    Colorado: ??
    Minnesota: ??
    Arizona: ??
    Michigan: Romney

    Honestly I see Romney winning Nevada (Mormons), Maine (close to MA), and Michigan (father) running away.

    Any predictions? I do have the states right, right?
    And I see Obama winning all those in the presidential election.
  • I Wear Pants
    queencitybuckeye;1071568 wrote:Agree in part with the former, less so with the latter. In what way is the problem "the system"?
    We have a penal system that has a clear incentive to want to have more people incarcerated.

    And I watched some of Newt's speech and I wanted to puke on the TV.
  • sjmvsfscs08
    sleeper;1071681 wrote:And I see Obama winning all those in the presidential election.
    I think Romney will win Nevada, Minnesota, and Michigan.
  • sjmvsfscs08
    I Wear Pants;1071683 wrote:We have a penal system that has a clear incentive to want to have more people incarcerated.
    And if I ever get ticketed for driving in the left lane without passing you can be sure as hell I will be one of them before I give a single fucking dollar to the state.
  • HitsRus
    And I watched some of Newt's speech and I wanted to puke on the TV.

    Newt focused squarely on Obama. I didn't find that nauseating at all.
  • dtdtim
    sjmvsfscs08;1071684 wrote:I think Romney will win Nevada, Minnesota, and Michigan.
    Minnesota's electoral votes last went to a Republican in 1972, when the Democrat won 1 state.

    Of the three...Nevada is by far the most likely for Romney, followed by Michigan. There are 20 other states that I would put in the 'maybe Romney' category before Minnesota. They're no DC but they're definitely not a Utah.
  • gut
    sleeper;1071681 wrote:And I see Obama winning all those in the presidential election.
    What the hell will Obama do for 4 years if he doesn't have to spend them all campaigning for re-election? MORE golf, lavish vacations and hangin' with celebs?
  • Ghmothwdwhso
    I Wear Pants;1071683 wrote:We have a penal system that has a clear incentive to want to have more people incarcerated.

    And I watched some of Newt's speech and I wanted to puke on the TV.
    When you're a flaming liberal, that will happen.....................
  • stlouiedipalma
    believer;1070490 wrote:Do you suppose Gingrich can get endorsements from Bill Clinton and John Edwards too?
    I suppose he could, but they aren't running, are they? Actually a Clinton endorsement would be fairly ironic, as Newt led the impeachment fight against Slick Willie while he was playing hide the weiner with that blondie who appears on the stage with him all the time. I've always wondered what must have gone through her mind (besides air) when she was willing to be the kept woman in Newt's open marriage proposal. I wonder if Newt will ever let her speak out on the campaign trail.
  • dwccrew
    believer;1071645 wrote:Rick and Ron need to bow out.
    I don't think so. Why should they? The primaries are not over, no need to bow out until a canidate is officially decided.