Big Debate Thursday Night

• O-Trap

  

  stlouiedipalma;761172 wrote:I kept looking for the "star trek" emblem on Ron Paul's lapel, because this performance proved to me that he needs to be beamed up. How did this man get elected to the House? Is his constituency a bunch of nitwits or what? He's clearly gone off the reservation. I predict if he manages to get nominated he'll make Goldwater in '64 look like a close race.

  
  His ideology is atypical. I'll give you that.
  
  However, I'm pretty sure that's the point. I know I'm tired of the stereotypical Republicrats that take office every four years.
  
  I've never ... literally ... never voted for a Republican in a Presidential campaign. If Paul ran, I would.
• jhay78

  

  Con_Alma;760165 wrote:People are so selfish that this election will again be decided on jobs, how much does it take to fill me tank and the economy in general.

  
  Call it JFK's "Ask not" in reverse, encouraged and cultivated by liberalism.
• Prescott

  This debate was a bad idea and will become fodder for the MSNBC crew the Comedy crews, and the late night liberals.
• Skyhook79

  

  stlouiedipalma;761172 wrote:Wow! I can't tell you how many times I had to tell myself that this was really happening. I say that because it had the look and feel of a skit on Saturday Night Live. I almost spit up my coffee when I saw that Cain guy and the graphic on the screen said "Former CEO of Godfather's Pizza".
  
  Some observations:
  
  Roger Ailes can do better than that collection of softball-lobbing stiffs who served as moderators. I suppose no one else at Fox wanted the gig and he had to use somebody.
  
  No ideas or suggestions on how each candidate would do things differently, just a marathon Obama-bashing. No surprise there.
  
  Pawlenty had better get beyond the Tea Party suck-up and do more than provide talking points if he expects to get anywhere next year. No substance from him at all, just bombast.
  
  Johnson will be labeled as a RINO before the year is out. Stick a fork in him.
  
  Cain...what can I say. Stick to pizzas. No, wait, his pizza chain never caught on, did it?
  
  Santorum. Not worth even commenting.
  
  I kept looking for the "star trek" emblem on Ron Paul's lapel, because this performance proved to me that he needs to be beamed up. How did this man get elected to the House? Is his constituency a bunch of nitwits or what? He's clearly gone off the reservation. I predict if he manages to get nominated he'll make Goldwater in '64 look like a close race.

  You have no idea what your talking about when it comes to Herman Cain.
• stlouiedipalma

  Then I am in good company, because even Cain doesn't know what he's talking about!
• Little Danny

  

  [QUOTE=stlouiedipalma;761172
  
  I kept looking for the "star trek" emblem on Ron Paul's lapel, because this performance proved to me that he needs to be beamed up. How did this man get elected to the House? Is his constituency a bunch of nitwits or what? He's clearly gone off the reservation. I predict if he manages to get nominated he'll make Goldwater in '64 look like a close race.[/QUOTE]
  
  
  Meh, I say the same thing when I see that nut ball lefties like Dennis Kucinich, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid keep getting re-elected. If Kucinich were a republican some one would have been doing a weekly skit on SNL for the past 20 years. The jokes would just keep rolling.
• stlouiedipalma

  Speaking of Kucinich, I recall someone doing a skit on him not too long ago. I want to say it was either The Daily Show or Colbert. I cannot find it, but it was hilarious. Kucinich is a walking parody waiting to happen but he keeps getting reelected.
  
  Here it is:
  
  http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-14-2011/dennis-kucinich-s-improbable-success
• fish82

  

  The SNL debate skit this weekend was pretty funny. That's as close as I got to watching the debate.
• Thread Bomber

  

  fish82;763369 wrote:The SNL debate skit this weekend was pretty funny. That's as close as I got to watching the debate.

  You didn't miss anything. The SNL skit had more info than the actual debate.
  
  I felt like I was watching the last preseason NFL game when none of the starters were playing.
• stlouiedipalma

  Exactly. None of these bozos will be there when it's time to nominate. This was just an attempt to line up some Obama-bashing. Fox News only sponsored it because they knew what it would consist of. No Republican candidate worth his salt would go near this thing, just these pretenders.
• jhay78

  

  stlouiedipalma;764246 wrote:No Republican candidate worth his or her salt would go near this thing, just these pretenders.

  
  Minor correction
• stlouiedipalma

  Why the correction? There aren't any female Republicans who can be taken seriously. Bachman is as looney as they come. That witch O'Donnell couldn't get elected dog catcher. Maybe you can get "Second Amendment Remedy" Angle to throw her hat into the ring as well. I'm not even bothering to mention the Twitter Queen. By the way, Twitter rhymes with Quitter, and that's all Sarah has to distinguish herself with.
  
  What a circus!!
• jhay78

  

  I'm starting to lean towards the opinions of the Ty Webb's and St Louie's of OC- unless the Republicans nominate a candidate with some guts, some intestinal fortitude, or whatever you want to call it, Obama is a shoo-in.
  
  When clowns like Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney are leading the field (I know it's still early), that tells you how ridiculously inept the R field is. Now we have Newt bashing Paul Ryan and his plan to save Medicare, and sounding like Chuck Schumer in the process. Along with that he agrees with the individual mandate requirement of Obamacare.
  
  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703509104576325350084379360.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
  

  Mr. Gingrich also stuck with his past support for the central plank of the Obama health plan—the mandate to buy insurance.
  
  In 1993, Mr. Gingrich said Americans should be required to have health insurance just as they are required to have automobile insurance. Back then, he endorsed the use of vouchers to help everyone buy insurance. He also endorsed the use of income-based vouchers to help everyone buy insurance.
  On Sunday, Mr. Gingrich said he opposes the Obama plan because it creates a "Washington-based model, a federal system" with exchanges that try to "replace the entire insurance system."
  
  He also contended that people should be required to buy coverage or post a bond to cover their costs should they need care and lack insurance. Like Mr. Romney—and Mr. Obama—Mr. Gingrich spoke of the "free rider" problem: those who go uninsured and then don't pay their bills when they get sick, spreading the costs across the system.
  
  "All of us have a responsibility to help pay for health care," he said Sunday.

  No, I don't. I have a responsibility to pay for MY (and my family's) health care. The problem is not the "those who are uninsured" part; it's the "don't pay their bills" part.
• believer

  

  jhay78;770066 wrote:.... unless the Republicans nominate a candidate with some guts, some intestinal fortitude, or whatever you want to call it, Obama is a shoo-in.
  
  When clowns like Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney are leading the field (I know it's still early), that tells you how ridiculously inept the R field is.

  Hucakbee and Trump are out. Romney, Gingrich, Paul, and Palin also will NOT get the nomination. It is indeed early. 4 years ago everyone thought Hillary Clinton was a shoo-in for Dem nomination but lo and behold the Anointed One wrestled the nomination away from her.
  
  Trust me...the real Repub nominee is waiting in the wings and will jump in at just the right time. I'm thinking we'll know who that is this fall.
• jhay78

  

  believer;770204 wrote:Hucakbee and Trump are out. Romney, Gingrich, Paul, and Palin also will NOT get the nomination. It is indeed early. 4 years ago everyone thought Hillary Clinton was a shoo-in for Dem nomination but lo and behold the Anointed One wrestled the nomination away from her.
  
  Trust me...the real Repub nominee is waiting in the wings and will jump in at just the right time. I'm thinking we'll know who that is this fall.

  I have a feeling you're right on that. It just frustrates me to no end listening to people who get conservative when they need to, then get all wishy-washy when they're under the big lights of Meet the Press or some other big mainstream show. They act like the 2010 midterms never happened or were a tiny blip on their political radar screen. I know others are trying to ride the wave of the midterm blowout, but aren't really true conservatives, but it's high time someone stepped up to LEAD.
• stlouiedipalma

  C'mon, believer, you just know it's all looking good for that dream ticket of Bachmann/Angle.
  
  I never considered the Huckleberry as a serious candidate because he has a taste of the money now. He's discovered what Palin found out, that they can make a fortune and not be accountable for anything they say. He wants to be a celebrity just like Sarah.
  
  Trump was never, never, never going to disclose his personal finances, so he really couldn't be taken seriously.
  
  That pretty much leaves you with the Newter, Romney and Pawlenty. The Newter and Romney are damaged goods among the Tea Party because of their support for mandated health care. Pawlenty is as exciting as watching paint dry.
  
  Michelle and Sharon. What a team just waiting to lead America. I sure get all tingly thinking about it. How 'bout you?
• majorspark

  

  stlouiedipalma;765994 wrote:Why the correction? There aren't any female Republicans who can be taken seriously.

  If this statement were made by someone on the right about female democrats or black democrats there would be cries of sexism and racism. You yourself have claimed racism was behind some of the nutbag theories on the right. I myself called you out on this. Unless you can unequivocally prove bigotry why claim it?
  
  As I told you before these things are based on political ideological differences rather than bigotry. For instance in your statement I quoted. You are not a sexist because of your statement. Never thought so. I bet you find very few republicans of any makeup to be taken seriously.
• stlouiedipalma

  Actually I do believe there are Republicans who can be taken seriously. Unfortunately for your argument, none of them are women. The reason I make light of the Republican females on the national scene is because they are frickin' space cadets. The Democrats have their fair share of looney tunes on their side, but these Republican women are a joke. Sorry if it offends, but it's simply the truth.
• majorspark

  

  stlouiedipalma;770844 wrote:Sorry if it offends, but it's simply the truth.

  Don't offend me at all. I may not think they are all space cadets, but these women are not high on my list either.
• I Wear Pants

  If one of the current GOP women (Palin, Bauchman, The Witch) gets the nomination you can bet your house on Obama as long as he doesn't start raping and murdering and vice versa puppies in plain view on the White House lawn.
• believer

  

  jhay78;770551 wrote:I have a feeling you're right on that. It just frustrates me to no end listening to people who get conservative when they need to, then get all wishy-washy when they're under the big lights of Meet the Press or some other big mainstream show. They act like the 2010 midterms never happened or were a tiny blip on their political radar screen. I know others are trying to ride the wave of the midterm blowout, but aren't really true conservatives, but it's high time someone stepped up to LEAD.

  Weren't we supposed to get that with the Prince of Hope & Change? lol
• Thread Bomber

  

  believer;770907 wrote:Weren't we supposed to get that with the Prince of Hope & Change? lol

  I think he is still looking for his walking shoes for the pickett lines.
• jhay78

  

  believer;770907 wrote:Weren't we supposed to get that with the Prince of Hope & Change? lol

  
  Yeah, but leading off the cliff wasn't what I had in mind for 2012 . . .
• BGFalcons82

  

  believer;770204 wrote:Trust me...the real Repub nominee is waiting in the wings and will jump in at just the right time. I'm thinking we'll know who that is this fall.

  
  Quite true, believer.
  
  George Will said the next president will be named Obama, Pawlenty, or Daniels. I agree, although I'm still thinking the governor of NJ isn't quite convinced yet to remain governor.
  
  As far as an earlier comment about Pawlenty being boring, the most electrifying speech reader of all time was elected in 2008 and look at the economic chaos he's wrought. Being boring might be EXACTLY what we need.
• stlouiedipalma

  Mitch Daniels...
  
  Wasn't he W's budget director at one time? Gee, let's see how he did in that job...
  
  http://www.alternet.org/economy/150950/mitch_daniels%2C_darling_of_%22fiscal_conservatives%2C%22_was_architect_of_the_us_debt_crisis
  
  Perhaps Daniels is a "born again" fiscal conservative, because his work under Bush speaks for itself.