Define leader …

• CenterBHSFan

  

  stlouiedipalma;719977 wrote:I never thought Carter was Presidential material during his term. I do, however, feel that Carter in his post-Presidential years, has become an example of what our former Presidents should be doing, promoting peace, democracy, free elections and global public service.

  And accusing others of being racist without any definitive proof?
• Belly35

  

  stlouiedipalma;719977 wrote:I never thought Carter was Presidential material during his term. I do, however, feel that Carter in his post-Presidential years, has become an example of what our former Presidents should be doing, promoting peace, democracy, free elections and global public service.

  
  "former Presidents should be doing, promoting peace, democracy, free elections and global public service"
  Why? Step down and back off .. Their legacy is written. Ever hear of the old saying "to many cooks in the kitchen" this is what happens when former President keeps trying to promote themselves...
  
  If former Presidents where successful and their agenda policy solid with America Constitution, values and morals then future President will follow that leadership……
  
  But then we have Community Organizer in office that needs all the help and distractions possible to mask the incompetency.
• believer

  

  Belly35;720007 wrote:But then we have Community Organizer in office that needs all the help and distractions possible to mask the incompetency.

  Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis? BHO is running the most transparent administration in Amerikan history.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Belly35;720007 wrote:"former Presidents should be doing, promoting peace, democracy, free elections and global public service"
  Why? Step down and back off .. Their legacy is written. Ever hear of the old saying "to many cooks in the kitchen" this is what happens when former President keeps trying to promote themselves...
  
  If former Presidents where successful and their agenda policy solid with America Constitution, values and morals then future President will follow that leadership……
  
  But then we have Community Organizer in office that needs all the help and distractions possible to mask the incompetency.

  
  What's wrong with a President promoting a private foundation or effort that goes outside of what the government can do. Instead of saying the government do it, instead the group invests private money into issues like global development, HIV research, etc. That is what HW Bush and Clinton have done. I see no problem with that and in fact encourage it.
  Former Presidents should move on, but take up issues that governments can't.
• I Wear Pants

  What's wrong with past presidents promoting foundations and such?
  
  That's about as dumb as people who think what Bill Gates is doing right now is somehow wrong.
• tsst_fballfan

  

  Wonder where the restraint was when he said Cambridge police "acted stupidly"? Wonder where his restraint was when spending $trillions of our money? Wonder where his restraint was when trying to reform healthcare? Wonder where his restraint was when suing Arizona?
• Belly35

  

  If former Presidents what to support foundation, charity organization, do some interviews for good public works or those thing outside the government that’s fine… I’m good with that.
  
  It when that share their opinion or views of the present situation and get involved in current government agenda to promote up coming Bills and Legislation is where I have a problem.
  
  I’m not interested in former President waving party line agenda …. Again
• I Wear Pants

  tsst_fballfan;720608 wrote:Wonder where the restraint was when he said Cambridge police "acted stupidly"? Wonder where his restraint was when spending $trillions of our money? Wonder where his restraint was when trying to reform healthcare? Wonder where his restraint was when suing Arizona?

  I would rather think about invading or bombing or whatever very thoroughly before doing so and in hindsight wish I did it quicker than to do so in a reactionary manner and regret doing it at all.
• tsst_fballfan

  

  I Wear Pants;720795 wrote:I would rather think about invading or bombing or whatever very thoroughly before doing so and in hindsight wish I did it quicker than to do so in a reactionary manner and regret doing it at all.

  
  There were many things he could have done without invading, bombing, etc. Like opening his mouth in support of the rebellion. :shrugs: UK and France did.
• I Wear Pants

  Then I'll accept that. The people I've heard upset seemed to think that we should have pursued military action without really thinking about it.
  
  But yeah, voicing support for people overthrowing a tyrant can't be a bad thing.
• Belly35

  

  France declare this a war victory?
• I Wear Pants

  I know you're joking Belly but I do find it odd that we as Americans seem to hate one of our better allies so much.
• Belly35

  

  I Wear Pants;720938 wrote:I know you're joking Belly but I do find it odd that we as Americans seem to hate one of our better allies so much.

  not a hate but more a disrespect for their Liberalism
• I Wear Pants

  Someone disagrees with us and we should disrespect them?