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CNN Poll: Republicans want winner over ideology in 2012

  • Ty Webb
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/08/cnn-poll-republicans-want-winner-over-ideology-in-2012/?on.cnn=1

    This just seems kinda odd to me....would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this
  • ptown_trojans_1
    1. Why does it seem odd? Of course Republicans would want to win the White House. It also shows R's have moderates, which the party should really play into.
    2. It is still 2011, early. Doesn't have any barring to 2012 yet.
  • sleeper
    Honestly, anything to get Barack Obama out of the house. I'll take freakin' John Kerry over this CLOWN.
  • CenterBHSFan
    sleeper;670715 wrote:Honestly, anything to get Barack Obama out of the house. I'll take freakin' John Kerry over this CLOWN.
    Zell Miller disagrees.
  • Writerbuckeye
    What's so surprising here? Republicans want to get Obama out of the White House and restore some sanity to the country. To do that, they're saying (for polling purposes at least) that they'd be willing to vote for someone who isn't an ideological perfect match for their beliefs.

    If you polled Democrats on the same issue, I would bet you'd bet the same response.

    You can't effect change if you don't have the seat of power to do it.
  • Ty Webb
    So what your saying writer....

    Is that you would vote for a "liberal" Republican like Lindsey Graham or Olympia Snowe even if you disagree on alot of issues with them...just to have someone else in the White House

    Good Lord.....That's like me saying I would have voted for Joe Lieberman or Ben Nelson just to get W out of the office
  • CenterBHSFan
    No, now think about it. How many times have we voted for the lesser of the two evils? I know that I've done it. And if I live long enough, I'll probably do it again.

    Isn't that what you're asking, Gibby?
  • Ty Webb
    Kinda....the poll results just seem odd to me
  • stlouiedipalma
    This just validates what I've been saying lately, that if the GOP nominates a member of the "good ole' boys club" they will go down to defeat. They need to start grooming someone new and fresh who can win. None of the leaders in that poll are capable of beating BHO in 2012. Given that Christie already said he isn't running, I'd say that Thune is the man they should be prepping.
  • Writerbuckeye
    Ty Webb;670909 wrote:So what your saying writer....

    Is that you would vote for a "liberal" Republican like Lindsey Graham or Olympia Snowe even if you disagree on alot of issues with them...just to have someone else in the White House

    Good Lord.....That's like me saying I would have voted for Joe Lieberman or Ben Nelson just to get W out of the office

    Considering those folks are LIGHT YEARS more in line with my personal philosophies than Obama...you bet your ass I'd vote for them. Why wouldn't I? It gets the faux President out of the White House and puts someone in who will at least come close to doing the things I want.

    I know for certain I'll not get what I believe in if Obama stays put.

    Don't know why you'd be surprised by that. I'd bet a majority of Americans end up voting that way every election. It's exceedingly rare when a candidate is a 100 percent match to your personal beliefs.
  • stlouiedipalma
    McGovern, Ford, Mondale, Dukakis, Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain...

    The list of first-time Presidential candidates since 1972 who couldn't win. Will we see yet another in 2012? Stay tuned...
  • ptown_trojans_1
    stlouiedipalma;672177 wrote:McGovern, Ford, Mondale, Dukakis, Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain...

    The list of first-time Presidential candidates since 1972 who couldn't win. Will we see yet another in 2012? Stay tuned...

    Ok, yet Carter, Clinton, W. Bush and Obama are examples of first-time Presidential candidates that did win.
  • BGFalcons82
    We have a new name in the mix.... The Donald. He gave a rousing speech to CPAC - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49268.html

    I'm not sure what to think about him as a President. He certainly says the right things. And he knows 1,000-fold more about business than our current economic fool. Thoughts?
  • fish82
    BGFalcons82;674154 wrote:We have a new name in the mix.... The Donald. He gave a rousing speech to CPAC - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49268.html

    I'm not sure what to think about him as a President. He certainly says the right things. And he knows 1,000-fold more about business than our current economic fool. Thoughts?
    I'll pass. He doesn't light my fire much.
  • stlouiedipalma
    Trump would at least make for some good hair jokes.
  • O-Trap
    Writer pegged it.

    You can't change anything if you aren't in the position to do it.

    The Republicans are in a position where they'd rather have a moderate ... probably anything to the right of a RINO ... in office, so that at least they can lay some groundwork to direct the the way they want it to go.

    I personally vote ideologically, which is why the candidate I vote for probably won't ever win (I don't have enough faith in the rest of America to break the two-party lock), but I don't blame people for settling for less than what they want in office. A jaded population will do that.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    BGFalcons82;674154 wrote:We have a new name in the mix.... The Donald. He gave a rousing speech to CPAC - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49268.html

    I'm not sure what to think about him as a President. He certainly says the right things. And he knows 1,000-fold more about business than our current economic fool. Thoughts?

    Not a good choice for President, too much baggage and foreign policy views are largely unknown.
    I'd rather see him as Secretary of the Treasury if I had to choose a position for him.
  • O-Trap
    BGFalcons82;674154 wrote:We have a new name in the mix.... The Donald. He gave a rousing speech to CPAC - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49268.html

    I'm not sure what to think about him as a President. He certainly says the right things. And he knows 1,000-fold more about business than our current economic fool. Thoughts?

    Initially, I liked this. It scares me, though.

    He knows enough to either be good at fiscal responsibility or good at hiding his own agenda. Most don't.
  • stlouiedipalma
    Once again, perhaps it's too early. Right now there's nobody out there who can win.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    stlouiedipalma;674213 wrote:Once again, perhaps it's too early. Right now there's nobody out there who can win.

    It is too early. It is February, 2011.
    We have no idea what will happen that could turn the tide toward the election. I refuse to even think about the 2012 election until at the very least January, 2012. Then, we can examine who has a shot.
  • BGFalcons82
    stlouiedipalma;674213 wrote:Once again, perhaps it's too early. Right now there's nobody out there who can win.

    There is one who can win...and convincingly I believe. All he has to do is declare himself for the job. He has made a commitment to be governor of his state that he wants to keep, but America needs him, not just New Jersey.
  • fish82
    stlouiedipalma;674213 wrote:Once again, perhaps it's too early. Right now there's nobody out there who can win.
    As ptown said...no one knows the landscape until 1/2012 at the earliest. Any number of things could happen in that time span that could lead to any of the current GOP crop winning the election. On the flip side, Bam could end up winning over Christie in a landslide...there's just no real way to tell right now.

    I will say that if unemployment is still over 9% this time next year, he's gonna have his hands full with whoever the GOP nominates.
  • BGFalcons82
    fish82;674243 wrote:I will say that if unemployment is still over 9% this time next year, he's gonna have his hands full with whoever the GOP nominates.

    I agree, and that's one reason why the manipulating and outright tomfoolery going on with reporting the unemployment numbers has me concerned. The old saying goes...figures don't lie, but liars figure. For all we know, they'll be reporting 7% unemployment and you'll have to hunt through the report, about page 32, to find those that have quit looking for work is 10%+.
  • Ty Webb
    Well...considering that pretty much every indicator and analyast has said unemployment will be around 8 % this time next year,I highly doubt he will have to worry about that


    Also, 10% unemployment didn't hurt Reagan's re-election campaign did it?
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Ty Webb;674564 wrote:Well...considering that pretty much every indicator and analyast has said unemployment will be around 8 % this time next year,I highly doubt he will have to worry about that


    Also, 10% unemployment didn't hurt Reagan's re-election campaign did it?
    I support the President, but so far, he is no Reagan. Not yet anyways, who knows he could be.
    Different times and different political climates.