Stay Classy Ted Strickland!
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Little DannyThere's so many ways one could go with Strickland's rant in today's Dispatch (I saw an interview on Channel 4 as well). We could discuss the merits of his claims, we could discuss each individual issue on its own, break it down by his comments on Kasich and Charles separately, etc.
To me, this interview by Strickland was classless. If Strickland had any class, he would have just kept his opinions to himself and faded away.
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Manhattan BuckeyeStrickland isn't a bad guy, he's just really, really dull. If he has an IQ above 105 I'd be shocked. He certainly doesn't have a great academic history, and makes Sarah Palin look like a genius in comparison.
But I think his heart is in the right place, he's just another guy that's never really worked outside of the public sector. He did as well as he could in a bad economy, but he just wasn't qualified to understand the industries that in the past made Ohio economically strong. How someone can make those comments without realizing that our state pensions/entitlements are horribly underfunded just shows his lack of financial acumen. -
I Wear Pants"I'm not pretending that I didn't lose the election," Strickland said. "He won the election, and quite frankly, I do wish him well. But I am puzzled at some of the things that he has suggested."
Yeah, really seems unclassy. -
CenterBHSFan
haha! Nice cherry picking Pants! Glad you were able to find that ONE piece to showcase.I Wear Pants;609587 wrote:"I'm not pretending that I didn't lose the election," Strickland said. "He won the election, and quite frankly, I do wish him well. But I am puzzled at some of the things that he has suggested."
Yeah, really seems unclassy.
I say good riddance to bad rubbish. Soooo glad I didn't vote for him the second time, as I was stupid enough to do the first time. -
I Wear PantsAsked whether he would have reappointed Charles as inspector general, Strickland replied, "Absolutely not."
"First of all, I think he conducted investigations in a way that was not fair and impartial," Strickland said. "I think he chose what information to rely upon, what information to discount or to ignore."
"It really bothers me," Strickland said. "It's nothing that Tom Charles did to me personally, but I think he has damaged good people."
Still nothing that I see as unclassy. You can dispute the claims but I don't think they are particularly unclassy. And I'm not even a fan of Strickland, obviously hasn't done the greatest of jobs the past four years even if you account for the economy making it difficult for anyone to do a good job. -
WriterbuckeyeCharles dinged one of his appointees pretty good and he's still bitter about it.
I actually worked in state government when Charles was the IG (Voinovich appointed him) and he was about as tough and fair as anyone can be in that position. If Strickland has a beef about how Charles handled the job, then there's probably something wrong with Strickland. -
O-TrapManhattan Buckeye;609564 wrote:He [...] makes Sarah Palin look like a genius in comparison.
I lawled ... bigtime. Woke up the wife, and now she's pissed. -
ptown_trojans_1Manhattan Buckeye;609564 wrote:Strickland isn't a bad guy, he's just really, really dull. If he has an IQ above 105 I'd be shocked. He certainly doesn't have a great academic history, and makes Sarah Palin look like a genius in comparison.
But I think his heart is in the right place, he's just another guy that's never really worked outside of the public sector. He did as well as he could in a bad economy, but he just wasn't qualified to understand the industries that in the past made Ohio economically strong. How someone can make those comments without realizing that our state pensions/entitlements are horribly underfunded just shows his lack of financial acumen.
Not a good move at all by the soon to be ex-Governor. He should have been gracious in his removal from office.
As someone who is from Strickland's hometown, I will say he has been a great disappointment. He came in with sound ideas, but really faltered in putting a coalition together to govern.
Also, Strickland does have some private experience, in law and working at SOCF. But, not a good move by Strickland. -
jhay78One of my favorites from the interview:
[QUOTE]"I don't hear the same kind of outcry about people who are making millions of dollars and still wanting even greater tax breaks. I don't hear any blame being directed toward them necessarily for the difficult economy that we're all dealing with. It's the regular working guy, and that's the way I feel about it."[/QUOTE]
No way that guy said that with a straight face. I don't go through two hours of any given day without hearing, reading, or seeing some individual, news organization, politician, etc., laying our economic perils at the feet of the eeevil rich and playing class warfare. That's where I draw the line with the "He's a good guy/ heart's in the right place/ just not very smart" argument. He's either being really dishonest or his IQ is way below 105. -
I Wear PantsLook, not defending that quote, but why is it that anytime someone suggests that the wealthy and corporate entities in our country contributed even the slightest bit to our problems now someone freaks out and goes "oh, so it's the eeeevil rich then?"
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CenterBHSFan
Because, IMHO, it seems that the people who do all the fingerpointing at republican/wall street types never once bring up the fact that "their side" could have helped prevent alot of that from happening; such as FM/FM for an exampple. It's always portrayed as "the other side" did this, that, and didn't do this and so on.I Wear Pants;611083 wrote:Look, not defending that quote, but why is it that anytime someone suggests that the wealthy and corporate entities in our country contributed even the slightest bit to our problems now someone freaks out and goes "oh, so it's the eeeevil rich then?"
I imagine that when those people start being a little bit more realistic and fair in their assertions, you'll see "the eeeevil rich" thing starting to curb itself in.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of medicine. Well... maybe not so much when it comes to government, eh? LOL -
I Wear PantsGlass-Steagle not being repealed would have been a pound of prevention.
Both sides have done terrible things. That's why I hate anything that pretends that one is even remotely better than the other. -
CenterBHSFan
I look at it like how I look at the first responders bill thread. I showcased a perfect example of several people automatically pointing the fingers, for any hesitation, at republicans. See where I'm going with this?I Wear Pants;611196 wrote:Glass-Steagle not being repealed would have been a pound of prevention.
Both sides have done terrible things. That's why I hate anything that pretends that one is even remotely better than the other.
It just seems like they do that so naturally that they don't even realize that their doing it. Like fingernail biters or people who some other OCD type of thing.
And THEN when the other side starts point it out and making an example of it, it's like "why are you doing that?"
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jhay78I Wear Pants;611083 wrote:Look, not defending that quote, but why is it that anytime someone suggests that the wealthy and corporate entities in our country contributed even the slightest bit to our problems now someone freaks out and goes "oh, so it's the eeeevil rich then?"
"Suggesting" that they "contributed" is one thing; the lame, tired class warfare crap is everywhere and it got old a long time ago. Strickland should know better, or if he does, he's being dishonest. -
HighlandStrickland is the worst thing that ever happened to Ohio.
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CenterBHSFanThese three paragraphs set the tone for the whole article, and THAT is where people are thinking that Strickland is not being very "classy". Basically, he's offended that there will be no coddling.
Three weeks before leaving office, Gov. Ted Strickland lit into Gov.-elect John Kasich and Thomas P. Charles, the state's next Public Safety director, accusing Kasich of lacking compassion and Charles of abusing his power.
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"I would have less concern if I felt like there was any compassion coming from Mr. Kasich when he talks about what he's going to do," Strickland said. "I don't hear it; I don't sense it; I don't feel it. And that troubles me."
Strickland said he hopes that Kasich is a successful governor and wishes him well. But he said that when Kasich talks about running people over with buses and throwing vegetables at them in stockades, and says special-interest groups have their "snouts" in the public trough, it makes him worry about the decisions Kasich will be making with the budget shortfall.
This quote basically cements my thoughts about coddling:
"Governing is more difficult than campaigning, and I do hope that once the responsibility is fully his that we may hear less of the kind of bombastic rhetoric," he said. "I think we may see someone who's having to come to terms with the responsibility of trying to govern. So I'm hoping for a more mellow approach to problem-solving."
Speaking of governing... how the hell would Strickland know? Just because you wore the label, doesn't mean you did it.
"I don't hear the same kind of outcry about people who are making millions of dollars and still wanting even greater tax breaks. I don't hear any blame being directed toward them necessarily for the difficult economy that we're all dealing with.
Well gee, Mr. Strickland, maybe it's because "The People" aren't buying that crap anymore. They are catching on. Talk about "bombastic rhetoric"!
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Skyhook79Highland;611688 wrote:Strickland is the worst thing that ever happened to Ohio.
Bob Taft??