Obama's aunt - US is "Obligated" to make her a citizen?
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CenterBHSFanObama's aunt says US obligated to make her citizen - CenturyLink™
At first glance, it looks like a case of entitlement. But then, after reading this:
Onyango came to the U.S. from Kenya in 2000 and was denied asylum by an immigration judge in 2004. She was granted asylum earlier this year by the same judge who said she could be in danger if she returned to her homeland.
I admit that I am sympathetic to her case. But, on the other hand, why is America "obligated" to give anybody citizenship?
And then I read this:
"To me, America's dream became America's worst nightmare," she told the TV station in her first interview since being granted asylum.
...which makes me want to tell her to go to hell.
Definitely feeling a 50/50 or perhaps a 60(con)/40(pro) about this situation.
On the one hand, I wouldn't want to see a little old lady sent back to Kenya when she might be in danger. On the other hand, I don't see why anybody, besides her FAMILY that could help her, is obligated to her.
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tk421She wouldn't be getting the time of day if she weren't Obama's aunt. Send her packing. Everyone in the world loves to hate the U.S., but expects the U.S. to do pretty much everything for them. I wish we had politicians that would stand up and say something about this bs double standard. If the rest of the world hates us so much, why do we continue to be the world police, rescue, savior, job provider, etc.
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LJis Margaret Wong still representing her?
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I Wear PantsI know nothing about the situation she's in so I'm going to assume the judge made the correct decision. But no, no one is obligated to do anything.
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believerWhy should we grant BHO's auntie citizenship when the POTUS's legal citizenship status is still in question?
I KID! Don't freak on me OC lefties. LOL -
Belly35What Obama has made her a Czar yet ...worthless send her happy ass back...
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I Wear Pantsbeliever;493048 wrote:Why should we grant BHO's auntie citizenship when the POTUS's legal citizenship status is still in question?
I KID! Don't freak on me OC lefties. LOL
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Mooney44CardsCenterBHSFan;492733 wrote: ...which makes me want to tell her to go to hell.
Well she's kind of right. America was the melting pot of the world a century ago. Most of us can probably name a grand parent or great grandparent who was straight off the boat (Myself, only 1 of my grandparents was born in the USA, and my only living grandparent isn't even a citizen!). Nowadays we're all terrified that the mexicans are gonna take our jobs. What happened to us? -
believer
I believe most Americans are not "terrified" the Mexicans are going to take our jobs...we just want the the Feds to enforce (their) our immigration laws and stop Mexicans from entering this country illegally. What is so friggin difficult to understand about that?Mooney44Cards;493926 wrote:Well she's kind of right. America was the melting pot of the world a century ago. Most of us can probably name a grand parent or great grandparent who was straight off the boat (Myself, only 1 of my grandparents was born in the USA, and my only living grandparent isn't even a citizen!). Nowadays we're all terrified that the mexicans are gonna take our jobs. What happened to us?
I have a hunch your grandparents entered the United States the way most new immigrants entered this country...LEGALLY. They probably passed through some place like Ellis Island, got proper documentation (IE: permanent resident status), applied for work legally, waited the appropriate amount of time, studied English if necessary, took the entrance test, and finally took the oath.
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Glory DaysI Wear Pants;493915 wrote:RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
They took our jerbs!
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I Wear Pants
I appreciate that process but it's infinitely harder to become a citizen now. Back when our grandparents and great/great great grandparents were coming over not nearly as many people were denied.believer;494077 wrote:I believe most Americans are not "terrified" the Mexicans are going to take our jobs...we just want the the Feds to enforce (their) our immigration laws and stop Mexicans from entering this country illegally. What is so friggin difficult to understand about that?
I have a hunch your grandparents entered the United States the way most new immigrants entered this country...LEGALLY. They probably passed through some place like Ellis Island, got proper documentation (IE: permanent resident status), applied for work legally, waited the appropriate amount of time, studied English if necessary, took the entrance test, and finally took the oath.
What happened to that?
Doesn't mean everyone should forego the process and sneak over. Just something to note. -
BGFalcons82believer;494077 wrote:I believe most Americans are not "terrified" the Mexicans are going to take our jobs...we just want the the Feds to enforce (their) our immigration laws and stop Mexicans from entering this country illegally. What is so friggin difficult to understand about that?
I have a hunch your grandparents entered the United States the way most new immigrants entered this country...LEGALLY. They probably passed through some place like Ellis Island, got proper documentation (IE: permanent resident status), applied for work legally, waited the appropriate amount of time, studied English if necessary, took the entrance test, and finally took the oath.
What happened to that?
Indeed....what did happen to that?
Regarding the thread....I think her situation reflects totally on Obama. How in the world he let her situation degenerate and not help her years ago is the tragedy. I suppose he's being consistent though, as he has a brother living is squalor in Africa. I guess he loves redistributing everyone else's money to help the poor and indigent more than spending his own to help his own family. -
CenterBHSFanI Wear Pants;494218 wrote:I appreciate that process but it's infinitely harder to become a citizen now. Back when our grandparents and great/great great grandparents were coming over not nearly as many people were denied.
Doesn't mean everyone should forego the process and sneak over. Just something to note.
But, how do you know that the ratio of admittance/denial isn't the same then as it is today? I don't know, haven't looked it up, just asking. I remember reading an article (years and years ago) describing how whole boatloads of people were sent back due to sickness/disease, which could run rampant back in the day. That's something that you're just not gonna see happen today with all the advances in personal hygiene, medical technology, etc.
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I Wear PantsThis is true. But in that case they could just get on another boat once they got better (or more likely died) and they'd be admitted. Today if you get denied just showing up a month later isn't going to change anything. I still would say that it's much harder to become a citizen today than it was 100 years ago or even less than that. I haven't looked at the numbers either so feel free to shove them in my face if I'm wrong.