Blacks only field trip?
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KrugliackWhy if a white male says they have white pride they are considered a racist, but if a black male says they have black pride its different?
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hasbeenGblock wrote: first of all their is WET its called every other channel
Just like every other month besides Feb. is white history month? Come on, man. You have to be smarter than such a generalization.Glory Days wrote:
really? then what is Tyler Perry doing on TBS!?!?!?!?!Gblock wrote: first of all their is WET its called every other channel -
ManO'War
I still don't get why the other kids couldn't come along??? Is the mere presence of other races going to somehow devalue the message??Gblock wrote: im only bringing that stuff up to explain possible intentions and reasoning by the principal.....you would be surprised what i see on a daily basis in middle school....there are kids who are already disenfranchised(Sp) in the 8th grade....i have students right now who are in gangs barely come to school and could care less what is going on with their education then i meet their parents and their home situation and i dont really blame them....
his type of field trip at young age could allow a kid to see an african american male in a role that they have never seen before.... before i began working where i work i assumed that everyone has a chance and truth is they don't.
they dont have great examples in their life and examples on tv are worse...at my school most of the kids wanna be rappers or NBA, NFL...
parents in the black community right now arent always raising their kids there are a lot of kids who are on their own in middle school and really as uneducated as they are they still are more educated than their parents....this could inspire one of the children and give them another perspective. im sure that was the motivation for the trip -
Gblock
its not a generalization...the reason there are black colleges is because blacks couldnt go to the white colleges...the reason there are black beauty pagents, black television channels etc is because there was no access to it so they made their own....pnhasbeen wrote:Gblock wrote: first of all their is WET its called every other channel
Just like every other month besides Feb. is white history month? Come on, man. You have to be smarter than such a generalization.Glory Days wrote:
really? then what is Tyler Perry doing on TBS!?!?!?!?!Gblock wrote: first of all their is WET its called every other channel -
Gblock
the better we educate someone the less chance they go to prison i say....ccrunner609 wrote:Gblock wrote: first of all their is WET its called every other channel
I was trying to speak to the principals probable motivation...i dont think it was racist.
as far as people struggling....blacks make up probly 80 percent of the prison population and only 30 percent of the population of this country so yeah they are struggling more. dont get me started on the inequality in education they have received for a hundred years. the funny thing about saying switch black and white around is that it never gets switched....blacks as wells as women and minorities often get the short end.....
So do you care to tell me about inequality in education? Do you realize how much federal and state money goes to those "minority" districts compared to those rural "mainly white" districts? Minority districts are funded out the ass compared to where I teach.
So you are also lumping the prison population issue with schools? You really need to take the blinders off.
maybe some day those things will end naturally im not sure we're there yet -
redstreak oneMoney doesnt solve the issue by itself. I live in a small rural southeast ohio district where we see the same things and we are about 95% white. Sometimes the only positive role models these kids see are between August and June from 8-3 pm. Broken homes, meth rampant, our murder rate has risen sharply, meaning about 12 murders out of 25,000 people in this year already. Unemployment around 25%, and a population who looks at school as a pain, and the welfare system as work! lol
Throwing money at the issue almost never works. These young people have to see positives in their lives every day, from the home and community. I dont have the answers, but money alone definately isnt it. -
Mr. 300But we throw money at it so the dems have a voting block in their back pocket.
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queencitybuckeye
Rarely have eight works been strung together so stupidly.ccrunner609 wrote: those things are the only racists things left. -
jmog
You had me until the last phrase, that was retarded. As much as I'm against affirmative action, and things of similar nature like the double standards (this field trip, BET, etc), your last phrase was stupid.ccrunner609 wrote: [
And now that blacks and whites go to college together, blacks are mainstream in entertainment and beauty pagents are combined then the "all black" stuff should all be stopped. Shut the doors of the colleges, turn off the black TV channels ect........ those things are the only racists things left.
There are PLENTY of racist things still around and plenty of racist people on both sides. -
rookie_j70"The principal, Mike Madison, who is black, said the trip was part of an effort to close the achievement gap between black and white students"
what achievment gap? look at our president, im pretty sure the achievment gap is pretty much met. -
ptown_trojans_1
Nope. Go into an urban inner city. Inner city blacks are still far lagging behind. Washington DC, here is simply pathetic. Simply google searches provide evidence.rookie_j70 wrote: "The principal, Mike Madison, who is black, said the trip was part of an effort to close the achievement gap between black and white students"
what achievment gap? look at our president, im pretty sure the achievment gap is pretty much met.
Besides, thinking two individuals provide evidence to prove a point about a whole classification of people is crazy. -
Al Bundy
Are they lagging because of race or because of socio-economic issues?ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
Nope. Go into an urban inner city. Inner city blacks are still far lagging behind. Washington DC, here is simply pathetic. Simply google searches provide evidence.rookie_j70 wrote: "The principal, Mike Madison, who is black, said the trip was part of an effort to close the achievement gap between black and white students"
what achievment gap? look at our president, im pretty sure the achievment gap is pretty much met.
Besides, thinking two individuals provide evidence to prove a point about a whole classification of people is crazy. -
jmog
I'd bet socio-economic.Al Bundy wrote:
Are they lagging because of race or because of socio-economic issues?ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
Nope. Go into an urban inner city. Inner city blacks are still far lagging behind. Washington DC, here is simply pathetic. Simply google searches provide evidence.rookie_j70 wrote: "The principal, Mike Madison, who is black, said the trip was part of an effort to close the achievement gap between black and white students"
what achievment gap? look at our president, im pretty sure the achievment gap is pretty much met.
Besides, thinking two individuals provide evidence to prove a point about a whole classification of people is crazy. -
ptown_trojans_1
I'd say both. The two are tied together. Just my view though.Al Bundy wrote:
Are they lagging because of race or because of socio-economic issues?ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
Nope. Go into an urban inner city. Inner city blacks are still far lagging behind. Washington DC, here is simply pathetic. Simply google searches provide evidence.rookie_j70 wrote: "The principal, Mike Madison, who is black, said the trip was part of an effort to close the achievement gap between black and white students"
what achievment gap? look at our president, im pretty sure the achievment gap is pretty much met.
Besides, thinking two individuals provide evidence to prove a point about a whole classification of people is crazy. -
Belly35Is there a little "Profiling" going on ...............
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Al Bundy
If it is at least in part socio-economic (which I believe it is), wouldn't the white students also benefit that are at that school?ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
I'd say both. The two are tied together. Just my view though.Al Bundy wrote:
Are they lagging because of race or because of socio-economic issues?ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
Nope. Go into an urban inner city. Inner city blacks are still far lagging behind. Washington DC, here is simply pathetic. Simply google searches provide evidence.rookie_j70 wrote: "The principal, Mike Madison, who is black, said the trip was part of an effort to close the achievement gap between black and white students"
what achievment gap? look at our president, im pretty sure the achievment gap is pretty much met.
Besides, thinking two individuals provide evidence to prove a point about a whole classification of people is crazy. -
cbus4lifeNot a lot of poor white kids in Ann Arbor.
Ann Arbor is pretty much the only city in Michigan that has been by and large immune to the economic troubles in the rest of the state. -
FatHobbit
I would think it would be good for white kids (any kids really, any race and both male and female) to listen to a successful black male. It might help dispel some stereotypes they hold.Al Bundy wrote: If it is at least in part socio-economic (which I believe it is), wouldn't the white students also benefit that are at that school?