Dissent ‘OK’ when coming from the left

• Prescott

  This seems to be the prevailing attitude. I am not a member of the Tea Party, but don't those people have the right to disagree without being labeled a racist, being called unpatriotic,and accused of using language which will incite violence?
  
  
  
  
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• Mr. 300

  

  Hillary Clinton screached at the top of her lungs it's the patriotic thing to do....disagree with an administration. She said this while running for the democrat nomination.
  
  Her words ring so true, but the left can't stand to hear it now.
• majorspark

  

  She right but is hard on the ears.
  
  
• queencitybuckeye

  Far easier to pretend that the few wack jobs in the crowd represent a group as a whole than to discuss/debate ideas.
• goldengonzo

  queencitybuckeye wrote: Far easier to pretend that the few wack jobs in the crowd represent a group as a whole than to discuss/debate ideas.

  Agreed, but I think it's important to point out that not every liberal assumes tea party members are racists, right-winged nutjobs.
  
  Of course there are the minority loonies protesting. They are easier to call out because they usually have some vulgar sign that makes for a good story. But, even though I question the motives of some "newer" tea party members, I believe overall that the tea parties are a good thing for America.
• bigkahuna

  Weren't these exact same things said about those who spoke out against Bush during his Administration?
  
  I agree, this IS patriotic... I just find it funny because the shoe is on the other foot.
  
  People calling the Tea Party unpatriotic are dumb
  People complaining about being called unpatriotic are equally dumb because there is a decent chance they were the ones calling "Bush haters" un-America un-Patriotic.....
• queencitybuckeye

  goldengonzo wrote:

  queencitybuckeye wrote: Far easier to pretend that the few wack jobs in the crowd represent a group as a whole than to discuss/debate ideas.

  Agreed, but I think it's important to point out that not every liberal assumes tea party members are racists, right-winged nutjobs.
  

  
  Point made and taken.
• ts1227

  

  Dissent is acceptable from anyone.
  All protesters/dissenters have been called "unpatriotic" by both sides. It's always incorrect, but it is always the first place people go because it's easier than actually thinking of a reasonable rebuttal.
  
  If you dissented against the war you were unpatriotic, now you are for being in the Tea Party.
  
  The Tea Party are well within their rights, obviously... but people often see the outspoken whack jobs on TV (every group has one, that's just the way it is). The whack jobs will always get shown because they make for the best TV, regardless of party/reason/etc. Is everyone out there an insane racist? No, but the few that are are quite entertaining and make for good ratings.
  
  Also, it's hard for people to separate it from right-wingers, because such a high percentage of the speakers/famous faces that have been tied to the movement lean WAY right. Sure, there are people of all sorts out there, but the heavy hitters in politics and entertainment championing the cause give it a right lean. The Tea party in my home county lists right on their page that I need to listen to Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity. How will some people not assume that to be right leaning? They could at least say listen to Traficant (Independent) on the weekends on Cleveland radio.
• derek bomar

  

  dissent will not be tolerated. All Hail Obama.
• fish82

  

  derek bomar wrote: dissent will not be tolerated. All Hail Obama.

  Dig it.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  derek bomar wrote: dissent will not be tolerated. Sig Heil Obama.

  There, I fixed it for you.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  I don't mind the rallies against this or that, it gives me something to do on a Saturday or lunch lol.
  How I see it is the people on the right railed against the rallies from the left and now the people on the left on railing against the rallies from the right. One and the same to me. The right is pretty much the left circa 2003-2007
• cbus4life

  I went to answer a knock on the door today, looked out the window, and it was some dude in a brown shirt.
  
  I went around out the back door and hit him on the head with my bat.
  
  Turns out it was just the UPS guy.
  
  At least i got my package.
• queencitybuckeye

  You said "package".
• cbus4life

  Yep.
  
  Apparently Obama is also trying to push his "homosexuality is OK" agenda buy sending dudes and their packages to my apartment.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  cbus4life wrote: I went to answer a knock on the door today, looked out the window, and it was some dude in a brown shirt.
  
  I went around out the back door and hit him on the head with my bat.
  
  Turns out it was just the UPS guy.
  
  At least i got my package.

  
  Thug
• cbus4life

  I left a note on the truck saying that they need to just drop it and run if they are going to come to my door in a brown shirt.
  
  Can never be too careful.
  
  I bet Obama has UPS drivers training out near some rural town in North Dakota, also.
• Prescott

  No, but the few that are are quite entertaining and make for good ratings.

  It has nothing to do with ratings. It has everything with dismissing these people because they question some government policies.
• Mr. 300

  

  I'll volunteer to be a route drive on CBUS's delivery route. I have my conceal carry, so his bat won't do him much good.
• Sykotyk

  

  I guess it's the double standard of it all.
  
  Republicans are allowed to argue that dissent is unpatriotic, but as soon as it's not their President in office, it's okay.
  
  Democrats are doing nothing more than holding Republicans to their own standard.
  
  Dissent is fine, but when the people yelling for eight years that it's not start to dissent, it's hypocrisy.
  
  Sykotyk
• fish82

  

  Sykotyk wrote: I guess it's the double standard of it all.
  
  Republicans are allowed to argue that dissent is unpatriotic, but as soon as it's not their President in office, it's okay.
  
  Democrats are doing nothing more than holding Republicans to their own standard.
  
  Dissent is fine, but when the people yelling for eight years that it's not start to dissent, it's hypocrisy.
  
  Sykotyk

  Same double standard applies to you people, as does the hypocrisy. Please don't pretend it doesn't.
• bigkahuna

  ^^Thank You
• I Wear Pants

  Both sides of hypocrites.
• bigkahuna

  The thank you was meant for skyhook.
  
  
  Like IWP said, it's both sides. If a D is in office, Rs bitch. If an R is in office, the Ds bitch. Regardless of who is in the White House, 50% of the country will be bitching. This goes for who has control of Congress as well.
• ts1227

  

  bigkahuna wrote: The thank you was meant for skyhook.
  
  
  Like IWP said, it's both sides. If a D is in office, Rs bitch. If an R is in office, the Ds bitch. Regardless of who is in the White House, 50% of the country will be bitching. This goes for who has control of Congress as well.

  Obviously this is the case, then there are a few things that have magnified it.
  
  1. Internet: Most of this discussion used to just take place between friends, or maybe a small group of drunken guys arguing (and ignoring one another too) at a private club. With message boards, social networking, etc. the amount of dissent that is visible has increased, and so have the number of contributors.
  
  2. Uninformed voters: It's great that the last election got more people involved, but unfortunately those who got involved are generally clueless to the world (and this is true on all parts of the spectrum). Couple this with all of the ways to express how ignorant you are (see: internet), and it just gets ugly.
  
  With all of this, most discussion (real life or message boards or Facebook) regardless of how well meaning it may be, unfortunately ends up evolving into a substanceless, partisan bitchfest instead of healthy discussion. It's just the world we currently live in.