Skull caps-stalling

• 1_beast

  

  What happen to th regulations concerning hair being off the collar and ear?? I see it a trend for skull caps to detract from getting haircuts.
  IMHO this is a uniform modification. I think that if a person is to wear a skull cap..it should stay in tact the whole match....as i have noticedthat several times there is a cut in action to re-adjust the "hair". This breaks up the momentum of the match.
  I propose the kids that HAVE TO WEAR A SKULL CAP IN LIEU OF GETTING A HAIRCUT:
  1ST Time it comes off-stalling warning
  2nd offense 1 point
  etc.
  
  Handle this just as stalling as it is breaking the momentum of a match....
  thoughts???
• cruiser_96

  

  It's not just long hair! We had a kid with braids...
  
  I agree though. Hated the cap from day 1. Get a hair cut or wear the cap that we bought that attaches to the headgear itself.
  
  But hey, whatever, dude.
• rtherthrwyathnknwya

  

  The rules state that its to be called like any other legal equipment that becomes illegal. 1st time warning 2nd time TV 1 point start injury time. There is TONS of leway given to this and I seldom see it called like this. While doing skin checks I am very up front that this is how its going to be called. You get one chance to reset the cap on me. Then its going to be called as noted above. I am far more leanant with headgear. FYI the same sequence is to be followed with issues with contact lenses.
  
  ...and the sign says long haired, freaky people need not apply....
• WGBplayer

  Beast, Do you really want to mess with the people's first amendment?
• green-d

  If they wear a skull cap it should stay on. Same thing with headgear. Come off once, should be warning, after that it should be a point for stalling.
• Turk182!

  I think there are several DISTINCT seperations of all of the above scenarios...
  First of all, there is NO first amendment issue involved here, so I hope you were joking.
  The skull cap is an OPTIONAL piece of equipment. You have the option to get a haircut and conform to the rules. You CHOOSE to wear the skull cap. Treat it just like a stalling, because that's what it is.
  Contact Lenses, and for that matter, Inhalers...medical equipment/conditions...Injury time applies. The exception is typically (or should be probably called this way (discretion of official)) if a contact comes out and the kid can peel it off his eyelid and stick it into his coaches hand basically on the way back to the center to reset, I let this slide. To wash it off and stick it back in...injury time.
  I have a problem with inhalers in general, because in my opinion, it's like poppin a greeney at the start of the 3rd period and gives the kid a possible advantage (and risks causing his heart to explode...but that's a personal choice by the parents). A personal position would be if my kid was in that much respiratory distress that he needed a "rescue inhaler", he'd forfeit. Not worth the risk to me, but that's my personal position on them. From a RULES standpoint, I guess they are medically approved, and worked into the rules, so instead of beating a dead horse and opening a can of pandoras worms, I'd say just follow "injury time" and forget it.
  And headgear is headgear... it can get pulled and come unsnapped...not the kids fault, but if it's a continuous problem in the match...tape it on and cut it off when the match is over. CAN'T classify headgear in either of the above categories.
• green-d

  I have seen headgear used as a great stalling devise. I have actually seen that more this year than inhalers. If it comes off that is one thing, but when it falls off 3-4 or more times a match, then that is a problem. It is equipment, do you let a kid tie his shoe 3-4 times a match, what if his shoe comes off more then once?
• 1_beast

  

  Turk182! wrote: I think there are several DISTINCT seperations of all of the above scenarios...
  First of all, there is NO first amendment issue involved here, so I hope you were joking.
  The skull cap is an OPTIONAL piece of equipment. You have the option to get a haircut and conform to the rules. You CHOOSE to wear the skull cap. Treat it just like a stalling, because that's what it is.
  

  THIS!!!!!
• THE4RINGZ

  

  OK let's make this cloudy debate a little more confusing. Say you put in a clarifying rule that deals only with skull caps and stalling. What do you do when a girl wrestles? Does she also have to maintian hair length standards?
  
  We saw some young ladies advance into deeper rounds of the tournaments this season. So are you going to propose a different set of rules for the ladies?
• green-d

  If they want to do a boys sport they should follow the boys rules.
• WGBplayer

  green-d wrote: If they want to do a boys sport they should follow the boys rules.

  LOL! I was joking about the amendment rule but... you kind of just proved that it is something that could turn into a very possible argument. (1st amendment rights with hair and expression since hair these days is an expression) Do you think any state will want to mess with that???? Title IX.... Either way it's not going to change as much as we'd like to see it.
• ksig489

  I had two kids this year with legit inhaler issues...both could easily collapse and have a bad atack if the inhalers werent available.
  
  With that being said...
  
  Two years ago I presented an idea to an official that he said he would bring up at a rules meeting...it went as follows:
  
  Inhalers must be checked in at weigh ins with a prescription label clearly printed on the inhaler (a doctors note on an official form could replace the prescription label). Any wrestler who presents this at the time of weigh ins can take injury time for the inhaler during a match. Any wrestler who does not present their inhaler at the time of weigh ins but needs it for a match must take a stalling call and a team point in order to get the injury time for the inhaler. This would help against the "team inhaler" that every kid uses to get a rest break on some teams. If you are willing to take a team point and a stall call, then you really need the puffer, if not, you are just faking it. Guys who actually have asthma will check them in at the weigh in. Doctors wont prescribe an inhaler for someone who doesnt need it.
• kennypowers

  I might be the minority here, but I feel the same about long hair as I do mouthpieces. Who is it hurting? It doesn't affect the opponent. If a kid has long hair and they don't want to wear a skull cap or get it cut to stay out of their eyes so be it. Same with mouthpieces. If they don't mind their mouth getting cut, again their choice.
  
  Unless it somehow gives them an unfair advantage, which neither do, it should be up to them
• I Wear Pants

  Wrestling someone with long hair would be really, really, really, annoying without a skull cap.
  
  Heck, wrestling someone with a skull cap is annoying anyway.
  
  Edit: Edited for H-E-Double Hockey Sticks
• jefft01

  There's a big difference between skull caps and mouth guards. When someone doesn't wear a skull cap over their long hair there is no risk to the other wrestler of getting sliced by the hair. On the other hand there is a risk to the other wrestler if someone with braces is not using a mouth guard.
• Bigcoopwch56

  Ya, I hate wrestling kids with skull cap's. Alot of times this year, they would have it fall off to get time to breathe.
• Fab1b

  

  My association actually asks all coaches to have the hair covers taped securly around the head to prevent them from coming off. They are legal equipment and if they meet the guideline there is no penalty but that doesn't mean I like that rule. They disrupt the flow of the match and I think if it continually comes off some sort of penalty should be instated to reduce this. If it comes off on my mat I tell the coach right away to get out the tape and tape it on. Same with the head gear, after the first time it comes off I tell the coach to get the tape ready to be taped to the wrestlers head.
• green-d

  My son has braces, when he doesn't wear a mouth piece it is just as likely that he will cut someones hand or arm just as easy as cutting his own mouth.
• kennypowers

  jefft01 wrote: There's a big difference between skull caps and mouth guards. When someone doesn't wear a skull cap over their long hair there is no risk to the other wrestler of getting sliced by the hair. On the other hand there is a risk to the other wrestler if someone with braces is not using a mouth guard.

  I suppose you're right. There would be a risk of that, albeit a small one. The mouth guard rule is relatively new, and prior to the rule I never saw it happen. It probably did though, which might be why they made the rule.
  
  What is the purpose of the hair being off the collar and ear?
• cruiser_96

  

  SKULL CAPS ARE BETTER THAN ALL CAPS. I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES WHEN PEPOLE POST AMAZINGLY LONG PARAGRAPHS AND EVERY LETTER IS IN CAPS AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T EVEN USE A PERIOD OR EVEN A COMMA SO YOU FIND YOURSELF RUNNING OUT OF BREATH AS YOU SIT AT YOUR COMPUTER AND READ BUT THEN YOU LOOK AND REALIZE IT'S HIS FIRST POST SO YOU LET IT GO OR MAYBE MAKE MENTION OF IT BY SAYING NO ALL CAPS OR MY FAVORITE STOP SHOUTING
• yupitsme

  what did cruiser_96 say i lost my focus
• I Wear Pants

  cruiser_96 wrote: SKULL CAPS ARE BETTER THAN ALL CAPS. I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES WHEN PEPOLE POST AMAZINGLY LONG PARAGRAPHS AND EVERY LETTER IS IN CAPS AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T EVEN USE A PERIOD OR EVEN A COMMA SO YOU FIND YOURSELF RUNNING OUT OF BREATH AS YOU SIT AT YOUR COMPUTER AND READ BUT THEN YOU LOOK AND REALIZE IT'S HIS FIRST POST SO YOU LET IT GO OR MAYBE MAKE MENTION OF IT BY SAYING NO ALL CAPS OR MY FAVORITE STOP SHOUTING

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• knightflyer150

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  cruiser_96 wrote: SKULL CAPS ARE BETTER THAN ALL CAPS. I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES WHEN PEPOLE POST AMAZINGLY LONG PARAGRAPHS AND EVERY LETTER IS IN CAPS AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T EVEN USE A PERIOD OR EVEN A COMMA SO YOU FIND YOURSELF RUNNING OUT OF BREATH AS YOU SIT AT YOUR COMPUTER AND READ BUT THEN YOU LOOK AND REALIZE IT'S HIS FIRST POST SO YOU LET IT GO OR MAYBE MAKE MENTION OF IT BY SAYING NO ALL CAPS OR MY FAVORITE STOP SHOUTING

  Cruiser_96 turned on his cruise control for cool.

  ...only if it was opposite day.
• cruiser_96

  

  Would that mean it isn't opposite day???