Central District seeding meetings cancelled?

• Dad4Sports

  I saw this on the CDAB website:
  
  Participant Seeding: REVISED 1/27/2015 - Due to new procedures for seeding individuals for sectional tournaments. The meeting scheduled for Wednesday, February 25 at Gahanna Lincoln has been cancelled.
  
  Can someone shed some light on this please? What are the new procedures?
  
• kennypowers

  Dad4Sports;1700540 wrote:I saw this on the CDAB website:
  
  Participant Seeding: REVISED 1/27/2015 - Due to new procedures for seeding individuals for sectional tournaments. The meeting scheduled for Wednesday, February 25 at Gahanna Lincoln has been cancelled.
  
  Can someone shed some light on this please? What are the new procedures?
  

  http://ohsaa.org/sports/wr/boys/wrrglts-individual.pdf
  
  page 3
  
  Can't say that I agree with 10.6.3.
• cruiser_96

  

  Check out 10.7.
  
  Good Saturday morning!!!!!!
• Dad4Sports

  Thanks for the info Cruiser...
  
  I agree about 10.6.3 Now a 9th grader who wrestles a "weak" schedule may be seeded above a returning upperclassman SQ? I don't like that at all.
  
  And 10.7? Just what everyone wants on Friday night/Saturday morning right before wrestling begins...
• wraith51

  

  10.7...so basically we can object to the seed and almost get a redraw? Sounds like we may as well have a regular seeding meeting then.
• Dad4Sports

  wraith51;1700589 wrote:10.7...so basically we can object to the seed and almost get a redraw? Sounds like we may as well have a regular seeding meeting then.

  That's my thought too...
• wraith51

  

  Takes a little bit of the strategery out of it but this could be interesting/beneficial to some degree. The can of worms I see here is someone calling shenanigans on placement of unseeded wrestlers, especially if they feel there is a host school/district bias. "Oh I noticed all the central guys have the #1 or #2 seed first match, but your guys have the .500 kid, I think you're screwing us!"
• 80baby

  This could be a long morning and an even longer day in DI and DII since these sectionals are one day. According to the letter of the rule weigh ins for sectionals are conducted the same as district and state weigh ins by weight class. Depending on where some schools are traveling to it could be a very early morning. Its going to be interesting Sunday to see how all of this is going to work out at each sectional site. What kind of time lines are going to be used as far as weigh in times, the coaches meeting/hash out seeding meeting then the start of wrestling. With this in place I could see the CD going back to having a two day sectional in the future. That way more time could be given to the coaches/hash out seeding meeting on Friday afternoon and start wrestling Friday evening. Since we can now have weigh outs on Friday nights I wouldn't see that being a problem. Correct me if I'm wrong be we voted to move our sectionals to one day when they said that we couldn't weigh out any more. I knew it was just a matter of time when the state tournament implemented the coaches dress code before it filtered down to the sectional and district tournaments.
• Blast82.5

  My unsolicited take on this:
  
  The tournament director knows who is registered for every weight class, and will know their seeding criteria, as submitted by the coaches. He should have a complete listing before weigh-ins. Unless someone doesn't make weight, or there is a legitimate swap-out of someone, there should be no changes.
  
  The "challenge" is only available is there is a mistake in how the written criteria was applied. You can't just say "my guy is better than your guy, let's take a vote."
  
  If there are no criteria-based objections, then the meeting is over. Surely people will have questions, but if the seeding data is available (i.e., doesn't have to be re-created because the director forgot to bring the info to the meeting), then settling disputes should be easy.
  
  Piece of Cake (???)
• Dad4Sports

  Blast82.5;1700662 wrote:My unsolicited take on this:
  
  The tournament director knows who is registered for every weight class, and will know their seeding criteria, as submitted by the coaches. He should have a complete listing before weigh-ins. Unless someone doesn't make weight, or there is a legitimate swap-out of someone, there should be no changes.
  
  The "challenge" is only available is there is a mistake in how the written criteria was applied. You can't just say "my guy is better than your guy, let's take a vote."
  
  If there are no criteria-based objections, then the meeting is over. Surely people will have questions, but if the seeding data is available (i.e., doesn't have to be re-created because the director forgot to bring the info to the meeting), then settling disputes should be easy.
  
  Piece of Cake (???)

  I guess I don't read it that way...
  
  10.7 Seeding Meeting
   A seeding meeting will be held after wrestlers have been seeded by criteria at the
  beginning of weigh-ins.
   A coach may object to a seed based on criteria and the coaches will then vote for the
  seeds in that weight class.
  
  The words "coach may object", leads me to interpret it that a coach CAN simply say "my guy is better than your guy, let's take a vote."
  
  This is the most important tournament of the year...no way, I'd want to remove all human element. There has to be a catch-all fail safe, when the criteria clearly does not capture the situation.
  
  After all...what is the ultimate goal of every sectional? Simply, it is to advance the 4 best wrestlers at each weight on to the district tournament. If that takes a little extra time to achieve, then so be it.
• USMCdevil2005

  

  Professionalism of Coaches section..... "No jeans or t shirts allowed" lol 99% of coaches wear jeans and t shirts. Better tell Jeff Jordan he can't wear his fleece vests anymore lol.
• lion69

  So much for wrestling a tough schedule. Wrestle weak then hope all the tough kids get thrown in other 1/2 bracket