CIT (catholic invitational tournament) this weekend at Liberty

• lion69

  The CIT will be held Sat. and Sun. at Olentangy Liberty. This tournament anually hosts some of the top teams and individuals in the State. Cinn Mohler, St. X, Cleveland St. I. Along with Mentor Lake Catholic, St Vincent St. Marys. Check Baums page to see seeding and brackets. On Monday at St. Charles the Junior High CIT will be held beginning at 9:30
• USMCdevil2005

  

  That's cool they're holding it in central Ohio this year. Should be a great event to attend.
• bribacker51

  

  Pulling for Patch Garren Bishop Ready should be a good test for him good luck to all the central Ohio boys.
• firestonefan

  

  Seed are up:
  
  http://www.baumspage.com/cit/2012/Seed%20Nominations.txt
• huntergreen26

  Is DeSales not wrestling in this?
• 112in84

  

  No Desales ? Whats going on @ Karl Road
• USMCdevil2005

  

  112in84;1368015 wrote:No Desales ? Whats going on @ Karl Road

  I can't believe this prestigious program is going down hill like this.
• Dust_E_Roads

  DeSales is updated now... They're in.
  
  http://www.baumspage.com/cit/2012/Rosters%20Submitted.txt
• MPhillips

  Sad to see Ready, Desales, Newark C. not able to fill line -ups. Who would have thought that Hartley and St. Charles would ever have more numbers? :huh:
  
  I went to school in the mid-eighties at Fisher Catholic. (Cruiser....No need to remind me how long ago that was.) Ready, Desales and us were the best 'A' schools in Central Ohio. (And Licking Heights, left them out because were talking CIT) Then...The CIT was the best tourney in the state minus The State Tournament.
  Please!!!! I'm not looking for an argument. It's just surprising to me the lack of numbers for these once great wrestling schools. Kind of sad.:-/
• USMCdevil2005

  

  yes it is. There have been some "Changings of the Guard" if you can call it that. Where is Rooney from St. Charles? Injured?
• Dust_E_Roads

  MPhillips;1368518 wrote:Sad to see Ready, Desales, Newark C. not able to fill line -ups. Who would have thought that Hartley and St. Charles would ever have more numbers?

  Not to mention, no Watterson at all. While maybe not of the historical pedigree of the others, it is sad how far that program has fallen. I think they only have a handful of kids.
• USMCdevil2005

  

  Dust_E_Roads;1368870 wrote:Not to mention, no Watterson at all. While maybe not of the historical pedigree of the others, it is sad how far that program has fallen. I think they only have a handful of kids.

  Yes I have a brother who helps out over there every once in a while, said there are only a few kids on the team. Wish these schools could get there numbers back up. Anyone think it comes from higher tuition rates now? I know when myself and my brothers were in school and our dad wanted to transfer us to DeSales it was pricey then and that was 10 years ago. Plus we would have had to gone to Fisher Catholic first for a year then could have went to DeSales.
• basementtrained

  YES. You are correct about the amount of the tuition. Fish eater from 92 myself. It was feasable for a "middle class" income to afford tuition... not today. 3 boys of mine all public schools. Explains the changing of the gaurd.
• MPhillips

  USMCdevil2005;1368913 wrote:Yes I have a brother who helps out over there every once in a while, said there are only a few kids on the team. Wish these schools could get there numbers back up. Anyone think it comes from higher tuition rates now? I know when myself and my brothers were in school and our dad wanted to transfer us to DeSales it was pricey then and that was 10 years ago. Plus we would have had to gone to Fisher Catholic first for a year then could have went to DeSales.

  Didn't cost my teammate or myself anything. :eek:
• bribacker51

  

  Congrats to Patch Garren Hwt champion from Ready
• oldtimer1979

  USMCdevil2005;1368913 wrote:Yes I have a brother who helps out over there every once in a while, said there are only a few kids on the team. Wish these schools could get there numbers back up. Anyone think it comes from higher tuition rates now? I know when myself and my brothers were in school and our dad wanted to transfer us to DeSales it was pricey then and that was 10 years ago. Plus we would have had to gone to Fisher Catholic first for a year then could have went to DeSales.

  Speaking from personal experience in the past few years , there is little to no support from the leadership of
  Watterson to continue the program, much less bring it back to the top of the CCL. I believe Hunter Maynard
  was the last District Qual. in 2010, and the only one since late 90's. And he came in from Teays Valley that
  year. Sad to see such a program fall .
• cruiser_96

  

  DiCarlo (Watt) wasn't a DQ last year??? 138lbs!?
• Dust_E_Roads

  oldtimer1979;1370919 wrote:Speaking from personal experience in the past few years , there is little to no support from the leadership of Watterson to continue the program, much less bring it back to the top of the CCL. I believe Hunter Maynard was the last District Qual. in 2010, and the only one since late 90's. And he came in from Teays Valley that year. Sad to see such a program fall .

  I'd heard the same thing regarding the leadership gutting the program and running off a good coach. Sad indeed.
  
  [One small correction: I believe Tommy Martin made it to states from Watterson in '08, but he was really a Dublin kid as he only attended Watterson his senior year]
• knightflyer150

  Nicky DiCarlo was a DQ last year for Watterson. I've gotten to know him through our club in the spring...he is a great kid and hard-working!
• MPhillips

  bribacker51;1370864 wrote:Congrats to Patch Garren Hwt champion from Ready

  Way to go Patch! CIT CHAMP! :thumbup:
• double arm bars

  You can have a successful program at any school in any sport. It's been done with support and without support. Of course it's easier to build with support of administration. You do however need a coach with a vision and a plan. A plan for this year next year and 5-10 down the road.
• Dust_E_Roads

  double arm bars;1371007 wrote:You can have a successful program at any school in any sport. It's been done with support and without support. Of course it's easier to build with support of administration. You do however need a coach with a vision and a plan. A plan for this year next year and 5-10 down the road.

  In the Watterson situation, from what I have been told, it was NOT a case of "lack of support", but actually an advesarial approach on the part of the administration. Your chances of having a successful program at a mid-sized Catholic school with an advesarial administration are about slim & none.
• hang_loose

  double arm bars;1371007 wrote:You can have a successful program at any school in any sport. It's been done with support and without support. Of course it's easier to build with support of administration. You do however need a coach with a vision and a plan. A plan for this year next year and 5-10 down the road.

  Plus it would be an added incentive for catholic schools to give their teachers (coaches) a decent retirement. I can't blame them for looking out for their family in the future.
  
  double arm bars, Your last 2 sentences are right on and need to be kept up with every new wrestler coming into the program. Plus try to keep parents involved.
• USMCdevil2005

  

  oldtimer1979;1370919 wrote:Speaking from personal experience in the past few years , there is little to no support from the leadership of
  Watterson to continue the program, much less bring it back to the top of the CCL. I believe Hunter Maynard
  was the last District Qual. in 2010, and the only one since late 90's. And he came in from Teays Valley that
  year. Sad to see such a program fall .

  He sure was! And should have been a state qualifier. I helped out with him At Teays. He is a great kid, comes from a great family. he transferred to Watterson to play football and is now playing at Bowling Green, will probably be on his way to the NFL. Very good Offensive Lineman!
  
  MPhillips , how did you manage that? I was at Power Club every week with Coach Marinelli and it still was going to cost a good bit, and in a house with 6 kids total, it was a lot of money for my parents. lol!
• MPhillips

  USMCdevil2005;1373722 wrote:He sure was! And should have been a state qualifier. I helped out with him At Teays. He is a great kid, comes from a great family. he transferred to Watterson to play football and is now playing at Bowling Green, will probably be on his way to the NFL. Very good Offensive Lineman!
  
  MPhillips , how did you manage that? I was at Power Club every week with Coach Marinelli and it still was going to cost a good bit, and in a house with 6 kids total, it was a lot of money for my parents. lol!

  It was managed for us.