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referees being more active in matches

  • Ohio wrestler
    All in all, it is the referees choice in the end, whether it is right or wrong. don't leave it up to the ref if it comes down to it, because they will do what is the safest and most fair call in their eyes. I have seen a difference, but I also do not think some referees realize how much the sport has evolved. when the wrestling changes, the referee should be able to adapt to it, which most can do.
  • jmog
    born_to_wrestle;1049050 wrote:A wise ref once told it to me like this........a fan, parent, or coach watch the match with their heart first then their eyes, while an official watches with his eyes only. In regards to PD on the half, it only becomes potentially dangerous when the top man does not know how to properly sink it. Tops forearm should be deep into bottoms arm pit. When tops arm comes out towards bottoms elbow, the force placed on the shoulder joint is to great and can lead to labrum or rotator cuff tears. As an official it is our job to protect your children, I am sure the ones complaining have kids that are never on bottom and never being turned.
    You are correct, but even a well placed half (deep in the arm pit) can become PD if the guy on bottom kind of curls into the "c" position forcing the top guy to walk to the head to turn. It doesn't matter how well placed the half is in this case.
  • Fab1b
    It's also not just limited to halfs, almost any situation could become PD. All it takes is a wrong turn, shift in weight, etc...
  • jmog
    Fab1b;1049433 wrote:It's also not just limited to halfs, almost any situation could become PD. All it takes is a wrong turn, shift in weight, etc...
    Very true, just last night we had a kid (11 yr old) riding legs and he cross faced to get NF points. In the transition his feet went from being crossed in the crotch to more like a body scissor position (common with leg ride tilts).

    It got stopped as a PD due to the body scissor. Nothing the kid did wrong on either side, but the ref was correct in the call especially since it was tight.